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= Wiki Discussions =
This page is meant to be a hub for general discussions about this wiki, its use and its editing. Feel free to use this page to note wiki problems and leave messages for the community. Feel free to add/revise sections as necessary and move items that have been completed to the "Completed" section below.


This page is meant to be a hub for general discussions about this wiki its use and its editing.
== Open Discussions ==
=== Global Replacement Request ===
A spot to capture global replacement requests:
* <s>Update testing/entry template to always include "tester=" field. [[User:Kolano|Kolano]] ([[User talk:Kolano|talk]]) 01:36, 29 May 2015 (CEST)</s> (done at some point?)


Feel free to use this to note wiki problems, etc. and leave messages for the community.


Feel free to add/revise categories as necessary.
=== Error with Slash in Search ===
Using a forward slash in a search term (i.e. "NA/EU") results in a long set of Wiki errors...
"Warning: preg_match() [function.preg-match]: Unknown modifier ')' in /home/dolphin-emu/apps/wiki/includes/search/SearchEngine.php on line 1402"
[[User:Kolano|Kolano]] ([[User talk:Kolano|talk]]) 22:01, 28 August 2013 (CEST)


== Broken Image Sizing ==
Now it's...
Apparently this issue appeared after site admin updated to Mediawiki 1.6. The current workaround that I've encountered is reuploading the image with resizing problems in PNG format. (I'm not sure if GIF have this bug too) [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] 22:33, 7 December 2010 (CET)
Warning: preg_match(): Unknown modifier ')' in /home/dolphin-emu/apps/wiki/includes/search/SearchHighlighter.php on line 512
...but this still occurs. [[User:Kolano|Kolano]] ([[User talk:Kolano|talk]]) 07:04, 13 March 2017 (CET)


After tests I confirm that all images format have this issue, I've notified this to Mamario. Now we have to wait for a answer, so some covers that I've recently updated will have this problem, please no revert these files. [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] 15:53, 10 December 2010 (CET)
* Mamario fixed this. I've notified too of some images that can't be resized, and he is looking for a solution. [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] 13:18, 11 December 2010 (CET)


*Alrighty everyone, I have figured it out, if your image does not resize then you add another little section at the end <nowiki>[[File:Rocky.jpg|300px</nowiki>'''|Rocky‎''']] or in the middle <nowiki>[[File:Rocky.jpg</nowiki>'''|Rocky‎'''|300px]] just mess around with it and you'll get the image resized. [[User:ThatLuciano|ThatLuciano]] 20:14, 14 February 2011 (CET)
=== Very Odd Query API Error ===
For some unknown reason, searching for 'SNES' with the Wikimedia API gives a 500 error. Typing in other searches, like 'Super Nintendo Entertainment System', 'SMS' or other games work. There is no other known queries that cause this. I have nailed it down to the 'redirects' parameter being, but it does not make sense why it works with other queries but SNES.


== Spammers ==
Here is the link in question: https://wiki.dolphin-emu.org/api.php?action=query&utf8=1&redirects&format=json&prop=info|categories&inprop=url&titles=SNES
In last days this wiki was attacked by bots that was posting massive spam in the wiki pages. We could implement the [http://www.google.com/recaptcha ReCaptcha] system, if these bots try to create accounts or try to edit wiki pages without an account, they will be permanently blocked (currently doesn't exist any bot that can bypass reCaptcha). [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] 14:01, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
*ReCaptcha is already implemented for unregistered users, I noticed it yesterday when I was adding a game without being logged in. Maybe we need a better protection --[[User:Trunks|Trunks]] 15:16, 7 November 2010 (UTC)


*The issue appears to be that no captcha is used on user creation requests, enabling the captcha to be avoided if one registered an account. [[User:Kolano|Kolano]] 16:23, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
[[User:Techydude3|Techydude3]] ([[User talk:Techydude3|talk]]) 00:12, 15 March 2021 (CET)


*ReCaptcha has got to be enabled on user creation since this problem is starting to get out of hand. Kolano is doing a great job with marking all the spammers and the pages for deletion, but I'm sure he's getting tired of doing this. [[User:ThatLuciano|ThatLuciano]] 04:08, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
== Recent Discussions ==
Below is listed of recently concluded discussions. You can [[Project:General_Discussions/Archive|search the archive]] for what was discussed since General Discussions page was created.


*If captcha isn't possible on User requests, in the current case a few string bans (i.e. "n a t o l i . r u") on entries would also likely do the trick.


*ReCaptcha was already activated for anonymous page edit/creation and user creation! I added wgSpamRegex, strings like n a t o l i . r u are blocked now. Let's see if that helps --[[User:WikiAdmin|WikiAdmin]] 20:03, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
=== Consider using TitleIDs for Open Issue Search ===
Instead of using the game's title to look for open issues, it would be better to  use the all possible TitleIDs affiliated with the game.
By using the TitleID, the accuracy of the search is increased to game specific issues. It removes the chance of mixing issues from different games.


*Ho-ray, a day without further spam. Too early to declare victory, but it's at least a good sign :~) [[User:Kolano|Kolano]] 21:45, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
For example:
Super Mario Galaxy


*Ah well, it was nice while it lasted. Might want to try adding a few more Spam string bans, though it's unclear how long such will work for. Suggestions: DRUGSTOxxx, CLICK HERE TO BUY [[User:Kolano|Kolano]] 19:51, 15 November 2010 (UTC)


*Another suggestion: "http://.*\.ru" which I think would take care of most of the recent spam. I hate to push for such a large ban, though there are likely few .ru domains we'd validly want to link to. My apologies to any Russian counterparts. [[User:Kolano|Kolano]] 04:42, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
Original Search:


*Spam is back again, this time with a different template with fewer phrases valid for banning, though odd foreign URLs are there. [[User:Kolano|Kolano]] 15:14, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
[https://bugs.dolphin-emu.org/projects/emulator/search?q=Super+Mario+Galaxy&open_issues=1 https://bugs.dolphin-emu.org/projects/emulator/search?q=Super+Mario+Galaxy&open_issues=1]


*Something is wrong since the reCaptcha isn't blocking these bots edition and user creation. We must find another way to block these spammers. [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] 16:07, 27 January 2011 (CET)


== DSP-LLE ==
Proposed Search:
I know this wiki is very game focused, and doesn't focus on stuff like explaining emulator options. But still, some topics, like DSP-LLE, are mentioned throughout the wiki without any explanation whatsoever. So someone sees the option in the configuration list, tries to use it, error. So they search the wiki, and find nothing. They go to the main dolphin page, nothing in the FAQs or support either. If they do google searches it will lead them to the forum, but even then it's not exactly easy to find. Should this wiki have something to explain certain topics, like DSP-LLE? Even if it was just a page with a link to the forums, it could go a long way to helping users figure out how it works. Obviously I am not suggesting we explain every single option available for configuration; that would take far too much effort to do as it changes all the time, and dolphin itself does a great at explaining things usually. But it might be nice to have something on the wiki for those that need it, just to help push them in the right direction. [[User:MaJoR|MaJoR]] 20:11, 08 June 2011 (UTC)


= Page Discussions =
[https://bugs.dolphin-emu.org/projects/emulator/search?q=RMGP01+RMGK01+RMGJ01+RMGE01+RMGR01+RMGC01&all_words=&open_issues=1 https://bugs.dolphin-emu.org/projects/emulator/search?q=RMGP01+RMGK01+RMGJ01+RMGE01+RMGR01+RMGC01&all_words=&open_issues=1]
== Possible fix for GameCube page ==
I've noticed that Mediawiki 1.6 support more templates, and apparently the GameCube list is working OK, even with all templates included. For help, I've too moved all links and references to the obsolete Ratings to the new RatingsGC, to reduce templates in use by GameCube page. [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] 22:33, 7 December 2010 (CET)
*No fix, after mergering htp://dolphin-emu.com and http://dolphin-emulator.com, the server that is hosting this wiki was changed and accepted a few more templates, but the issue still occur [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] 16:07, 27 January 2011 (CET)


== Wii List at Critical Length ==
[[User:Techydude3|Techydude3]] ([[User talk:Techydude3|talk]]) 20:45, 29 May 2020 (CEST)
It appears the Wii game list has it the critical length where the wiki is no longer able to process the number of templates in it. We either need to split it up as we have the GameCube page or determine an alternate way to address the many templates issue. [[User:Kolano|Kolano]] 17:28, 14 November 2010 (UTC)


I have split into a-m and o-z which will work for now.
: Sounds reasonable, however, from a quick look, it doesn't seem that trivial to implement since the Game IDs come directly from the DPL extension and I'm not that experienced with its usage... - [[User:mbc07|mbc07]] ([[User talk:mbc07|talk]]) 21:51, 29 May 2020 (CEST)


Half the titles compatibilities to the template are screwed up in the lists so the lists will need to be edited for that.
::Nah it shouldn't be a big deal to do. Sorry for ninja-ing you but inspired by this idea right after you said that I changed the ID system to save the results of the DPL to a variable, allowing for this change to be made by regexing the variable. As a benefit, we also get [[:Category:Pages with no GameIDs]] which we never had before. It'll take me a bit to do the regexes though since I'm terrible with them... - [[User:Xerxes|Xerxes]] ([[User talk:Xerxes|talk]]) 22:12, 29 May 2020 (CEST)


[[Special:Contributions/122.104.103.221|122.104.103.221]] 15:30, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
::Done. It uses IDs for the issue tracker search on pages that have IDs, and on pages that don't have IDs, it uses the page title. - [[User:Xerxes|Xerxes]] ([[User talk:Xerxes|talk]]) 00:33, 30 May 2020 (CEST)


== Unresizeable Images ==
:::Thanks! I appreciate your assistance.- [[User:Techydude3|Techydude3]] ([[User talk:Techydude3|talk]]) 01:39, 30 May 2020 (CEST)
There are at least 2 images on the site that can't be resized with "|300px" in their tags. Not clear what's up. They would be...


[[File:FlingSmash.jpg|300px|FlingSmash‎]]
: It is fairly common for the GameIDs to be missing from issues that are ill-reported. We should probably search for the game's name in addition to the GameIDs to get those cases. - [[User:MayImilae|MayImilae]] ([[User talk:MayImilae|talk]]) 13:36, 3 June 2020 (CEST)
[[File:Rocky.jpg|300px]]


[[User:Kolano|Kolano]] 17:28, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
::Sure, that makes sense. I'll have it do both. My reasoning was that people would know to use the issue tracker for the game's title intuitively but not necessarily know how to search the IDs, so users would try searching the title on their own, but just searching for both to begin with makes more sense. - [[User:Xerxes|Xerxes]] ([[User talk:Xerxes|talk]]) 20:10, 3 June 2020 (CEST)


* I saw this problem when I uploaded the Sonic Colors cover which I then had to upload it at 300px, oh and I updated yours too [[User:ThatLuciano|ThatLuciano]] 17:45, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
::: Apparently Redmine only can search for 5 terms, cutting off the rest of the search results (unless using its api). [https://www.redmine.org/projects/redmine/wiki/RedmineSearch#Search-controller https://www.redmine.org/projects/redmine/wiki/RedmineSearch#Search-controller] This means a wildcard is needed at the region character if a title has 5 or more GameIDs. Also, the title would need to be in quotes, so it doesn't search for "Super" & "Mario" & "Galaxy".


This problem is caused by the compression method, if you experience this bug again, try to save the same image in PNG format (better quality and doesn't have this issue). [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] 19:18, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
:::Basically, the link changes from this:
*This was a server issue. Mamario already fixed this. [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] 16:07, 27 January 2011 (CET)


*Alrighty everyone, I have figured it out, if your image does not resize then you add another little section at the end <nowiki>[[File:Rocky.jpg|300px</nowiki>'''|Rocky‎''']] or in the middle <nowiki>[[File:Rocky.jpg</nowiki>'''|Rocky‎'''|300px]] just mess around with it and you'll get the image resized. [[User:ThatLuciano|ThatLuciano]] 20:14, 14 February 2011 (CET)
:::[https://bugs.dolphin-emu.org/projects/emulator/search?q=RMGP01+RMGK01+RMGJ01+RMGE01+RMGR01+RMGC01&all_words=&open_issues=1 https://bugs.dolphin-emu.org/projects/emulator/search?q=RMGP01+RMGK01+RMGJ01+RMGE01+RMGR01+RMGC01&all_words=&open_issues=1]
:::to this:
:::[https://bugs.dolphin-emu.org/projects/emulator/search?q=RMG_01+%22Super+Mario+Galaxy%22&all_words=&open_issues=1 https://bugs.dolphin-emu.org/projects/emulator/search?q=RMG_01+%22Super+Mario+Galaxy%22&all_words=&open_issues=1]
::: - [[User:Techydude3|Techydude3]] ([[User talk:Techydude3|talk]]) 16:02, 4 June 2020 (CEST)


== Incorrect Ratings ==
::::That would actually be pretty challenging and require a lot of work pre-processing the ID list before the search (not all games use one single ID with different region codes, in fact in some cases they can go all over the place). I'll mull it over. The nicer solution would be a change on the issue tracker side to allow more search terms but searching by title works well enough anyways. On the quotes, I already put the game titles in quotes for the search because I was testing different pages and the Dead Space page picked up a ton of different issues casually using the word "dead", so yeah those are totally necessary if "all words" is disabled. I think what I'll do for now is put the title in quotes first in the search, then the IDs afterwards, so at least the cutoff will be some of the IDs and not the game's title. - [[User:Xerxes|Xerxes]] ([[User talk:Xerxes|talk]]) 20:29, 4 June 2020 (CEST)
More and more I'm noticing people incorrectly changing the ratings putting a number directly on the list instead of in the ratings pages just undid 2 of the them from the same person.


We need all users to understand not to change the ratings that way or a way to prevent it as its going to get annoying and harder to change. [[Special:Contributions/122.104.103.221|122.104.103.221]] 20:16, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
:::: I think we could reorder the search string construction, so it becomes "game name" + game IDs. The 6th term and forward would still be ignored by Redmine but I think it's acceptable, as it would still be sufficient for most games and would still be more broad than the previous search that considered only the game name... - [[User:mbc07|mbc07]] ([[User talk:mbc07|talk]]) 01:30, 5 June 2020 (CEST)
----
I think this is generally due to folks being unaware of how to work with the ratings templates. Some suggestions:
*Revise the ratings template to recognize the numbers an provide info on appropriate corrections.
*Revise the rating template so ratings link to the appropriate ratings edit page. I'm guessing this would mean generating separate templates per system.
 
However, we'll likely still see this (and the similar issue of pages using the rating vs ratings template) even then. Unfortunately the best solution may be to just continue to monitor things. The searches below can help with such...
*[http://www.dolphin-emulator.com/wiki/index.php?title=Special:Search&ns0=1&redirs=1&search=Rating|&limit=100&offset=0 Use of the rating rather than ratings template] (some unrelated results mixed in)
*[http://www.dolphin-emulator.com/wiki/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=%22ratings|0%22+%22ratings|1%22+%22ratings|2%22+%22ratings|3%22+%22ratings|4%22+%22ratings|5%22&fulltext=Search Ratings template used with #'s]
[[User:Kolano|Kolano]] 20:37, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
 
I guess theres no scripts or wiki bots that can monitor it automatically for us be good if there was.
 
I hope people read the ratings links I put on the main page its the best I could do and also It would be a good idea to update each list page so at the top is a big comment about editing ratings they need to scroll past something like.
 
Put (hash) as I cant put a real one here.
 
(comment)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)
 
Please don't put ratings in this file use the link below
 
Link to Wii Ratings list
 
(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(/comment)
 
I added a test example to the Wii page  that can be rolled out to all the other lists.
 
[[Special:Contributions/122.104.103.221|122.104.103.221]] 20:56, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
 
As mentioned earlier wii lists 505'd is now split into 2 lists now and half the ratings for both Wii lists are screwed up now or haven't been added.
 
Also allot of gamecube games are still inline ratings and not using the template in the game list about 40-50% all games.
 
Its at a critical stage that about 50% of all ratings for the games over both the Wii and Gamecube game lists need to be changed to the template.
[[Special:Contributions/122.104.103.221|122.104.103.221]] 15:42, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
 
== Infobox VG thumbnail template ==
We don't have a template for thumbnails of Infobox VG, so I think that we can use a 300px rendering for game covers, a 350px rendering for Wii Channels and a 175px rendering for WiiWare games. Take for example [[Photo Channel]], in Infobox VG you need only to put the rendering in a tag: <nowiki>[[File:Photo_Channel.png</nowiki>'''|350px'''<nowiki>]]</nowiki>
 
Just add the rendering tag after filename. If you are editing a wiki page that use Infobox VG, change the thumbnail to fit in this template. I will edit this in all of my future commits. [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] 20:25, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 09:44, 24 March 2022

This page is meant to be a hub for general discussions about this wiki, its use and its editing. Feel free to use this page to note wiki problems and leave messages for the community. Feel free to add/revise sections as necessary and move items that have been completed to the "Completed" section below.

Open Discussions

Global Replacement Request

A spot to capture global replacement requests:

  • Update testing/entry template to always include "tester=" field. Kolano (talk) 01:36, 29 May 2015 (CEST) (done at some point?)


Error with Slash in Search

Using a forward slash in a search term (i.e. "NA/EU") results in a long set of Wiki errors... "Warning: preg_match() [function.preg-match]: Unknown modifier ')' in /home/dolphin-emu/apps/wiki/includes/search/SearchEngine.php on line 1402" Kolano (talk) 22:01, 28 August 2013 (CEST)

Now it's... Warning: preg_match(): Unknown modifier ')' in /home/dolphin-emu/apps/wiki/includes/search/SearchHighlighter.php on line 512 ...but this still occurs. Kolano (talk) 07:04, 13 March 2017 (CET)


Very Odd Query API Error

For some unknown reason, searching for 'SNES' with the Wikimedia API gives a 500 error. Typing in other searches, like 'Super Nintendo Entertainment System', 'SMS' or other games work. There is no other known queries that cause this. I have nailed it down to the 'redirects' parameter being, but it does not make sense why it works with other queries but SNES.

Here is the link in question: https://wiki.dolphin-emu.org/api.php?action=query&utf8=1&redirects&format=json&prop=info%7Ccategories&inprop=url&titles=SNES

Techydude3 (talk) 00:12, 15 March 2021 (CET)

Recent Discussions

Below is listed of recently concluded discussions. You can search the archive for what was discussed since General Discussions page was created.


Consider using TitleIDs for Open Issue Search

Instead of using the game's title to look for open issues, it would be better to use the all possible TitleIDs affiliated with the game. By using the TitleID, the accuracy of the search is increased to game specific issues. It removes the chance of mixing issues from different games.

For example: Super Mario Galaxy


Original Search:

https://bugs.dolphin-emu.org/projects/emulator/search?q=Super+Mario+Galaxy&open_issues=1


Proposed Search:

https://bugs.dolphin-emu.org/projects/emulator/search?q=RMGP01+RMGK01+RMGJ01+RMGE01+RMGR01+RMGC01&all_words=&open_issues=1

Techydude3 (talk) 20:45, 29 May 2020 (CEST)

Sounds reasonable, however, from a quick look, it doesn't seem that trivial to implement since the Game IDs come directly from the DPL extension and I'm not that experienced with its usage... - mbc07 (talk) 21:51, 29 May 2020 (CEST)
Nah it shouldn't be a big deal to do. Sorry for ninja-ing you but inspired by this idea right after you said that I changed the ID system to save the results of the DPL to a variable, allowing for this change to be made by regexing the variable. As a benefit, we also get Category:Pages with no GameIDs which we never had before. It'll take me a bit to do the regexes though since I'm terrible with them... - Xerxes (talk) 22:12, 29 May 2020 (CEST)
Done. It uses IDs for the issue tracker search on pages that have IDs, and on pages that don't have IDs, it uses the page title. - Xerxes (talk) 00:33, 30 May 2020 (CEST)
Thanks! I appreciate your assistance.- Techydude3 (talk) 01:39, 30 May 2020 (CEST)
It is fairly common for the GameIDs to be missing from issues that are ill-reported. We should probably search for the game's name in addition to the GameIDs to get those cases. - MayImilae (talk) 13:36, 3 June 2020 (CEST)
Sure, that makes sense. I'll have it do both. My reasoning was that people would know to use the issue tracker for the game's title intuitively but not necessarily know how to search the IDs, so users would try searching the title on their own, but just searching for both to begin with makes more sense. - Xerxes (talk) 20:10, 3 June 2020 (CEST)
Apparently Redmine only can search for 5 terms, cutting off the rest of the search results (unless using its api). https://www.redmine.org/projects/redmine/wiki/RedmineSearch#Search-controller This means a wildcard is needed at the region character if a title has 5 or more GameIDs. Also, the title would need to be in quotes, so it doesn't search for "Super" & "Mario" & "Galaxy".
Basically, the link changes from this:
https://bugs.dolphin-emu.org/projects/emulator/search?q=RMGP01+RMGK01+RMGJ01+RMGE01+RMGR01+RMGC01&all_words=&open_issues=1
to this:
https://bugs.dolphin-emu.org/projects/emulator/search?q=RMG_01+%22Super+Mario+Galaxy%22&all_words=&open_issues=1
- Techydude3 (talk) 16:02, 4 June 2020 (CEST)
That would actually be pretty challenging and require a lot of work pre-processing the ID list before the search (not all games use one single ID with different region codes, in fact in some cases they can go all over the place). I'll mull it over. The nicer solution would be a change on the issue tracker side to allow more search terms but searching by title works well enough anyways. On the quotes, I already put the game titles in quotes for the search because I was testing different pages and the Dead Space page picked up a ton of different issues casually using the word "dead", so yeah those are totally necessary if "all words" is disabled. I think what I'll do for now is put the title in quotes first in the search, then the IDs afterwards, so at least the cutoff will be some of the IDs and not the game's title. - Xerxes (talk) 20:29, 4 June 2020 (CEST)
I think we could reorder the search string construction, so it becomes "game name" + game IDs. The 6th term and forward would still be ignored by Redmine but I think it's acceptable, as it would still be sufficient for most games and would still be more broad than the previous search that considered only the game name... - mbc07 (talk) 01:30, 5 June 2020 (CEST)