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{{Infobox VG
{{Infobox VG
|image         = [[File:TalesOfSymphoniaGC.jpg|300px|Tales of Symphonia|300px]]
|image     = [[File:TalesOfSymphoniaGC.jpg|300px]]
|developer     = Namco Tales Studio
|developer = Namco Tales Studio
|publisher     = Namco Bandai Games
|publisher = Namco Bandai Games
|released     = {{vgrelease|NA=July 13, 2004|EU=November 19, 2004|JP=August 29, 2003}}
|series    = Tales
|series        = ''Tales''
|released = {{vgrelease|NA=July 13, 2004|EU=November 19, 2004|JP=August 29, 2003}}
|genre         = Action role-playing
|genre     = Action role-playing
|modes         = Single-player, Co-op (4)
|modes     = Single-player, Co-op (4)
|input         = GameCube Controller
|input     = GameCube Controller
|forumlink     = http://forums.dolphin-emu.org/Thread-gc-tales-of-symphonia--25820
|forumlink = http://forums.dolphin-emu.org/Thread-gc-tales-of-symphonia--25820
}}
}}


In a dying village on Sylvarant, legend has it that a Chosen One will one day appear from among the people, and the land will be reborn. Now, in '''''Tales of Symphonia''''' (テイルズ オブ シンフォニア, ''Teiruzu obu Shinfonia''), you must enter a cel-shaded world in which you command real-time battles. Execute and combine hundreds of special attacks, magic spells, and combos. Each character grows to suit your fighting style, and the storyline changes based on the characters' relationships. The line between good and evil blurs in this immersive adventure where the fate of two interlocked worlds hangs in the balance. A direct spin-off sequel titled [[Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World]] was released for [[Wii]].
In a dying village on Sylvarant, legend has it that a Chosen One will one day appear from among the people, and the land will be reborn. Now, in '''''Tales of Symphonia''''' ('''''テイルズ オブ シンフォニア''''', '''''Teiruzu obu Shinfonia'''''), you must enter a cel-shaded world in which you command real-time battles. Execute and combine hundreds of special attacks, magic spells, and combos. Each character grows to suit your fighting style, and the storyline changes based on the characters' relationships. The line between good and evil blurs in this immersive adventure where the fate of two interlocked worlds hangs in the balance. A direct spin-off sequel titled [[Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World]] was released for [[Wii]].


== Emulation Information ==
== Emulation Information ==
=== Pink Pearl Ring Quest Crash ===
The quest in Sybak to collect the Pink Pearl Ring can crash.  This has been observed to happen on real GameCubes and Wiis, and seems to happen when the quest is done at a time when the developers didn't anticipate, or if cheats were used to get various other items.
{{VideoGallery
|vid1=oKY3RmvtSLg|cap1=Sometimes its the game - Tales of Symphonia
}}
=== Cannot Grab Blocks (Keyboard Controls) ===
=== Cannot Grab Blocks (Keyboard Controls) ===
When emulating the control stick with a keyboard, it may seem impossible to push or pull blocks in some instances of the game. It's because the character can't grab the blocks while running. A workaround is to assign a key to the Main Stick Modifier in the GCPad settings, which will cut the controller stick's range in half while pressed. The character in-game will walk instead of running, thus allowing it to grab the blocks.
When emulating the control stick with a keyboard, it may seem impossible to push or pull blocks in some instances of the game. It's because the character can't grab the blocks while running. A workaround is to assign a key to the Main Stick Modifier in the GCPad settings, which will cut the controller stick's range in half while pressed. The character in-game will walk instead of running, thus allowing it to grab the blocks.


=== Broken Curtains in Schoolhouse ===
=== Broken Curtains in Schoolhouse ===
{{image|Tales of Symphonia Classroom curtains.jpg|thumb|left|Broken graphics on console.|br}}
Turns out the developers messed up the curtains in the school house in one of the rooms.  They appear on the back wall rotated out of the screen.  You can even use freecam to see the rest of the missing ones.  This happens on console as well.
Turns out the developers messed up the curtains in the school house in one of the rooms.  They appear on the back wall rotated out of the screen.  You can even use freecam to see the rest of the missing ones.  This happens on console as well..
{{image|Tales of Symphonia Classroom curtains.jpg|Broken graphics on console.|br}}


{{image|Tales of Symphonia Classroom curtains.jpg|thumb|left|Broken graphics on console.|br}}
=== Multishadowing ===
Shadows cast on whatever is below them, even if they've already hit a solid object.  This is a bug in the game and unrelated to Dolphin.
{{image|Tales of Symphonia Multishadowing.jpg|Multishadowing on console.|br}}


== Problems ==
== Problems ==
=== Skit and Dialog Textures ===
{{Problems|{{#vardefineecho:problems|
When viewing a skit or when characters talk during in-game dialog, certain textures will not accurately update when the Texture Cache is set to Fast. During skits, character icons may not appear to be talking (mouths won't move). During in-game dialog, the mouth textures may not change when a character speaks. Setting the Texture Cache slider to Position 2 (Middle) resolves this issue. It is set by default in the GameINI, however opening the graphics configuration during play may cause the problem to reappear.


=== {{s}} D3D Cutscene Rendering Issue{{/s}} ===
=== <s>Skit and Dialog Textures</s> ===
Some cutscenes have rendering issues with the D3D graphics backend. Use OpenGL to solve this issue. Fixed by {{revision|4.0-4451}}
When viewing a skit or when characters talk during in-game dialog, certain textures will not accurately update when the Texture Cache is set to Fast. During skits, character icons may not appear to be talking (mouths won't move). During in-game dialog, the mouth textures may not change when a character speaks. Setting the Texture Cache slider to Position 2 (Middle) resolves this issue. It is set by default in the GameINI, however opening the graphics configuration during play may cause the problem to reappear. Refer {{issue|10705}}. Fixed by {{revision|5.0-4171}}
{{image|Tales of Symphonia D3D11 Cinema Bug.jpg|Cutscene in D3D11}}
 
{{image|Tales of Symphonia D3D11 Cinema Bug2.jpg|Proper emulation|br}}
}}}}


== Enhancements ==
== Enhancements ==
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The game has some problems with fire effects in some areas with Dolphin's widescreen hack that can be solved with the following Gecko Code, and it needs a render fix.  Textboxes and a small amount of text will be glitched up. Make sure to disable Dolphin's Widescreen Hack before using this Gecko code. This Widescreen Hack Keeps the HUD Unstretched.
The game has some problems with fire effects in some areas with Dolphin's widescreen hack that can be solved with the following Gecko Code, and it needs a render fix.  Textboxes and a small amount of text will be glitched up. Make sure to disable Dolphin's Widescreen Hack before using this Gecko code. This Widescreen Hack Keeps the HUD Unstretched.


==== NTSC-U ====
==== NA ====
<pre>
<pre>$16:9 Widescreen
0400B7A0 4E800020
0435D88C 44555555
0435AE50 44555555
0435B728 44555555
0435BB18 44555555
0435C44C 44555555
0435B654 3FE38E39
0435B654 3FE38E39
20C2D4E8 3FB6DB6E
0435AFF8 3FE38E39
04C2D4E8 3FF3CF38
C20A0690 00000002
E2000001 80008000
3C804420 90830000
21296024 3FAAAAAB
C0830000 00000000
C2010360 00000003
3C804455 60845555
90830000 C0830000
60000000 00000000
C202732C 00000003
3C804455 60845555
90830000 C0830000
60000000 00000000
C200FCD8 00000003
3C804455 60845500
90830000 C0830000
60000000 00000000
C211717C 00000005
C003000C 3C003B19
6000999A 80C30000
7C003000 40820010
3C00BF40 90020000
C0020000 00000000
21201A44 C02436C0
052936C0 44555555
05296024 3FE38E39
05296024 3FE38E39
05296320 44555555
05293D60 44555555
052939B8 44555555
E2000001 80008000
E2000001 80008000
04023C10 4E800020
20C2B274 4B4D23B1
C20FE470 00000004
04C2D4E8 3FF3CF38
3DC03FAA 61CEAAAB
C2C2B620 00000005
91C26000 C1E26000
80A10064 3C8080C2
ED0F0232 ED494024
6084B000 7C052000
4180000C 3C803B19
90830000 38800001
60000000 00000000
60000000 00000000
040E39DC 4E800020
04116254 4E800020
0403EFA4 4E800020
20C128A4 9421FEC0
04C128A4 4E800020
E2000001 80008000
E2000001 80008000
</pre>
==== EU ====
<pre>$16:9 Widescreen
0410071C C3A2882C
043644CC 3FE38E39
</pre>
=== 60Hz PAL ===
In the PAL-Version the 60Hz mode cannot be activated at startup. Use this Gecko code to force the 60Hz mode.
<pre>$60Hz
04000088 3FE0802B
0400008C 63FF188C
04000090 93ED8670
04000094 4810645C
04070A74 38C0000F
04070AC4 3804188C
04070B00 38C0000F
041064EC 4BEF9B9C
022B1892 000001C1
022B1894 000001C8
022B1898 0000000F
022B189C 000001C8
</pre>
</pre>


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The game utilizes a blur technique as a "focus effect". During normal top-down gameplay, anything in the center of the screen is clear, but the edges are distorted and duplicated. If the camera angle moves down to the character's level, the effect becomes a distance blur. This is not a problem with Dolphin - this is an actual game effect that the developers intended and is present on console. But at the higher resolutions Dolphin is capable of it can be very annoying.
The game utilizes a blur technique as a "focus effect". During normal top-down gameplay, anything in the center of the screen is clear, but the edges are distorted and duplicated. If the camera angle moves down to the character's level, the effect becomes a distance blur. This is not a problem with Dolphin - this is an actual game effect that the developers intended and is present on console. But at the higher resolutions Dolphin is capable of it can be very annoying.


Previously, Dolphin included a Projection Hack preset specifically for this game. The projection hack removes the blur from the top down sections of the game, but in doing so it makes the over-the-shoulder sections much worse. In {{revision|4.0-2356}} the projection hack GUI was removed, and the preset with it. However, the functionality remains. To enable the projection hack on builds of Dolphin after that point, create a user GameINI for the game (right click the game in the game list > Properties > press the "Edit Config" button to create or edit a user GameINI) with the following text:
Previously, Dolphin included a Projection Hack preset specifically for this game. The projection hack removes the blur from the top down sections of the game, but in doing so it makes the over-the-shoulder sections much worse. In {{revision|4.0-2356}} the projection hack GUI was removed, and the preset with it. However, the functionality remained until {{revision|5.0-6860}}. To enable the projection hack on builds before {{revision|5.0-6860}} and after {{revision|4.0-2356}}, create a user GameINI for the game (right click the game in the game list > Properties > press the "Edit Config" button to create or edit a user GameINI) with the following text:


<pre>[Video]
<pre>[Video]
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<pre>
<pre>
04023C10 4E800020
04023C10 4E800020
0403EFA4 4E800020
</pre>
</pre>


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|vid3=9TER7SKgVi4|cap3=Tales of Symphonia on NVIDIA SHIELD Android TV - Dolphin Emulator (Nintendo GameCube)
|vid3=9TER7SKgVi4|cap3=Tales of Symphonia on NVIDIA SHIELD Android TV - Dolphin Emulator (Nintendo GameCube)
}}
}}
[[Category:GameCube games]]
[[Category:GameCube games]]
[[Category:Two Disc games]]
[[Category:Two Disc games]]

Revision as of 17:54, 7 June 2019

Tales of Symphonia
TalesOfSymphoniaGC.jpg
Developer(s) Namco Tales Studio
Publisher(s) Namco Bandai Games
Series Tales
Platform(s) GameCube
Release date(s) JP August 29, 2003
NA July 13, 2004
EU November 19, 2004
Genre(s) Action role-playing
Mode(s) Single-player, Co-op (4)
Input methods GameCube Controller
Compatibility 5Stars5.pngEdit rating: Tales of Symphonia
Perfect
GameIDs
See also...

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In a dying village on Sylvarant, legend has it that a Chosen One will one day appear from among the people, and the land will be reborn. Now, in Tales of Symphonia (テイルズ オブ シンフォニア, Teiruzu obu Shinfonia), you must enter a cel-shaded world in which you command real-time battles. Execute and combine hundreds of special attacks, magic spells, and combos. Each character grows to suit your fighting style, and the storyline changes based on the characters' relationships. The line between good and evil blurs in this immersive adventure where the fate of two interlocked worlds hangs in the balance. A direct spin-off sequel titled Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World was released for Wii.

Emulation Information

Pink Pearl Ring Quest Crash

The quest in Sybak to collect the Pink Pearl Ring can crash. This has been observed to happen on real GameCubes and Wiis, and seems to happen when the quest is done at a time when the developers didn't anticipate, or if cheats were used to get various other items.


Cannot Grab Blocks (Keyboard Controls)

When emulating the control stick with a keyboard, it may seem impossible to push or pull blocks in some instances of the game. It's because the character can't grab the blocks while running. A workaround is to assign a key to the Main Stick Modifier in the GCPad settings, which will cut the controller stick's range in half while pressed. The character in-game will walk instead of running, thus allowing it to grab the blocks.

Broken Curtains in Schoolhouse

Turns out the developers messed up the curtains in the school house in one of the rooms. They appear on the back wall rotated out of the screen. You can even use freecam to see the rest of the missing ones. This happens on console as well.

Multishadowing

Shadows cast on whatever is below them, even if they've already hit a solid object. This is a bug in the game and unrelated to Dolphin.

Problems

Skit and Dialog Textures

When viewing a skit or when characters talk during in-game dialog, certain textures will not accurately update when the Texture Cache is set to Fast. During skits, character icons may not appear to be talking (mouths won't move). During in-game dialog, the mouth textures may not change when a character speaks. Setting the Texture Cache slider to Position 2 (Middle) resolves this issue. It is set by default in the GameINI, however opening the graphics configuration during play may cause the problem to reappear. Refer issue 10705. Fixed by 5.0-4171

Enhancements

HD Textures

Pack here: [1]

Note: If you are using the widescreen code below, you may want to go into the texture pack's menu folder and delete the 9 character icons and 9 character portraits since their aspect ratio is too narrow.

Widescreen Gecko Code

The game has some problems with fire effects in some areas with Dolphin's widescreen hack that can be solved with the following Gecko Code, and it needs a render fix. Textboxes and a small amount of text will be glitched up. Make sure to disable Dolphin's Widescreen Hack before using this Gecko code. This Widescreen Hack Keeps the HUD Unstretched.

NA

$16:9 Widescreen
0435D88C 44555555
0435AE50 44555555
0435B728 44555555
0435BB18 44555555
0435C44C 44555555
0435B654 3FE38E39
0435AFF8 3FE38E39
C20A0690 00000002
3C804420 90830000
C0830000 00000000
C2010360 00000003
3C804455 60845555
90830000 C0830000
60000000 00000000
C202732C 00000003
3C804455 60845555
90830000 C0830000
60000000 00000000
C200FCD8 00000003
3C804455 60845500
90830000 C0830000
60000000 00000000
C211717C 00000005
C003000C 3C003B19
6000999A 80C30000
7C003000 40820010
3C00BF40 90020000
C0020000 00000000
21201A44 C02436C0
052936C0 44555555
05296024 3FE38E39
05296320 44555555
05293D60 44555555
052939B8 44555555
E2000001 80008000
20C2B274 4B4D23B1
04C2D4E8 3FF3CF38
C2C2B620 00000005
80A10064 3C8080C2
6084B000 7C052000
4180000C 3C803B19
90830000 38800001
60000000 00000000
E2000001 80008000

EU

$16:9 Widescreen
0410071C C3A2882C
043644CC 3FE38E39

60Hz PAL

In the PAL-Version the 60Hz mode cannot be activated at startup. Use this Gecko code to force the 60Hz mode.

$60Hz
04000088 3FE0802B
0400008C 63FF188C
04000090 93ED8670
04000094 4810645C
04070A74 38C0000F
04070AC4 3804188C
04070B00 38C0000F
041064EC 4BEF9B9C
022B1892 000001C1
022B1894 000001C8
022B1898 0000000F
022B189C 000001C8

Reduce Double Image

The game utilizes a blur technique as a "focus effect". During normal top-down gameplay, anything in the center of the screen is clear, but the edges are distorted and duplicated. If the camera angle moves down to the character's level, the effect becomes a distance blur. This is not a problem with Dolphin - this is an actual game effect that the developers intended and is present on console. But at the higher resolutions Dolphin is capable of it can be very annoying.

Previously, Dolphin included a Projection Hack preset specifically for this game. The projection hack removes the blur from the top down sections of the game, but in doing so it makes the over-the-shoulder sections much worse. In 4.0-2356 the projection hack GUI was removed, and the preset with it. However, the functionality remained until 5.0-6860. To enable the projection hack on builds before 5.0-6860 and after 4.0-2356, create a user GameINI for the game (right click the game in the game list > Properties > press the "Edit Config" button to create or edit a user GameINI) with the following text:

[Video]
PH_ZNear = 0.00026
PH_ZFar = 0.00026
ProjectionHack = 1

Alternatively, you can add this AR/Gecko Code to completely remove the blur:

NTSC-U

04023C10 4E800020
0403EFA4 4E800020

Applying it to Disc1 will also apply it to Disc2 since they share the same GameID.

Configuration

Only configuration options for the best compatibility where they deviate from defaults are listed.

Graphics

Config Setting Notes
Video Backend OpenGL Avoid cutscene rendering issue
Texture Cache Accuracy Position 2 (Middle) Fixes the skit and in-game dialog textures

Version Compatibility

The graph below charts the compatibility with Tales of Symphonia since Dolphin's 2.0 release, listing revisions only where a compatibility change occurred.

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5.0-21268 (current)
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Δ
Δ
Δ
Δ
2.0 (r5384)
Compatibility can be assumed to align with the indicated revisions. However, compatibility may extend to prior revisions or compatibility gaps may exist within ranges indicated as compatible due to limited testing. Please update as appropriate.

Testing

This title has been tested on the environments listed below:

Test Entries
Revision OS CPU GPU Result Tester
2.0 Windows XP AMD Athlon II X2 215 @ 3.45GHz NVIDIA GeForce 7025 It took 75+ hours to complete this game. Most time at 80-100%. Some slowdowns (65-75%) in big areas and WorldMap.
r6878 Windows 7 AMD Phenom II 965 @ 3.81GHz ATI Radeon HD 4870 Mostly 60FPS, 30 in world map, sometimes lags in battle. Lags during transitions. Music is messed up.
r7409 Windows 7 Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 @ 3.8GHz NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GT Full playable with LLE, Fire and Text boxes messed a bit. Rare lag on graphical intensive scenes (battle/worldmap) GothicIII
r7480 Ubuntu 10.04 Intel Core 2 Duo E4500 @ 2.2GHz NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT All seems to work except for the BGM. It's choppy. Intro stutters as well. No lags observed. Chocwise
3.0 Windows 7 Intel Core i5-2500K @ 3.3GHz AMD Radeon HD 6870 Game runs full speed at all times with LLE. Make sure you have LLE on Thread enabled to gain a great speed boost. The game only lags in certain menu´s. Garteal
3.0-235 Windows 7 Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9770 @ 3.2GHz ATI Radeon HD 4870x2 60FPS constant with DSP HLE but at cause of sound glitches (music) when DSP LLE enable sound is fixed and game runs between 80-100% arcticmedia
3.5 Windows 7 Intel Core i7-950 @ 4.1GHz NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 @ .9GHz 60FPS constant even with DSP LLE enabled, which is still necessary if u don't want to experience music glitches. Titouf
4.0 Windows 7 AMD Phenom X3 8650 @ 2.3GHz NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT The majority of the game is 45-60FPS, but there are areas where the FPS can drop to 35-45FPS. Regardless, the game is very playable. Settings used is Direct3D9, 1x native/0x AA/1x AF, and mid-Texture Cache. Audio is DSP HLE. There were no graphical issues and audio was perfect so long as the FPS stayed high.
4.0.1 Windows 7 Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3.4GHz NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250 Runs perfectly. Occasional freezing which leads to Dolphin crashing. Seems to work better with the JITIL experimental recompiler, but feels a little smoother with JIT. OpenGL graphics, HLE audio.
4.0.2 Windows 7 Intel Core i5-3470 @ 3.2GHz NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250 Runs at a steady 60FPS at 2.5x internal resolution, 16x AF and 16x CSAA with OpenGL and HLE. Looks absolutely beautiful. S1dology
4.0.2 Windows 7 Intel Core i7-2600K @ 3.4GHz NVIDIA GeForce GTX 470 Played with 1920x1584 internal resolution and 16xQ CSAA, didn't drop under 60FPS so far. Used the recommended settings to avoid glitches, but for some reason the start menu disappears. Sound of cutscenes stutters at certain points. Besides that the game runs great and looks a lot better than the original on gc. Walkerlos
4.0-8 Fedora 22 Intel Core i5-3210M @ 2.5GHz Intel HD Graphics 3000 Runs at a constant 60FPS @ 2x native resolution with the exception of entering a new area, in which case it drops down to 30 for a few seconds. Minor audio chops and rare slow downs in battle. Played for about 4 hours, no crashes or glitches. ‎Inexplicit
4.0-7675 Windows 7 AMD FX-6300 @ 4.1GHz NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti Runs very well at solid 60FPS with occasional Audio and minor Graphical glitches. Areas with Fire effects seem to be very blurry but still playable. Settings: HLE Audio, OpenGL 3x resolution, Widescreen hack, 8x MSAA & SSSA enabled. Played 2 hours so far without a crash or dip in frames!

Gameplay Videos