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:::::::Oh right, I somehow thought you said to give 0 stars to the titles rated as "not recommended" in 3D rating compatibility. (I need a "not support 3d =/= not recommended" lesson apparently) I'd still like to give "2D" two stars to coincide with first digit in parameter "2". [[User:Lucario|Lucario]] ([[User talk:Lucario|talk]]) 12:53, 28 November 2015 (CET)
:::::::Oh right, I somehow thought you said to give 0 stars to the titles rated as "not recommended" in 3D rating compatibility. (I need a "not support 3d =/= not recommended" lesson apparently) I'd still like to give "2D" two stars to coincide with first digit in parameter "2". [[User:Lucario|Lucario]] ([[User talk:Lucario|talk]]) 12:53, 28 November 2015 (CET)


:I am against stars. The silly stars are a huge problem for emulation rating, even when it's much simpler that 3D! 3D is so absurdly complicated! When this was brought up the stars idea was discussed, and I pushed strongly against it, and we settled for the current text technique. I think it should stay as such. - [[User:MaJoR|MaJoR]] ([[User talk:MaJoR|talk]]) 15:57, 28 November 2015 (CET)
:I am against stars. The silly stars are a huge problem for emulation rating, even when it's much simpler that 3D! 3D is so absurdly complicated! When this was brought up the stars idea was discussed, and I pushed strongly against it, and we settled for the current text technique. I think it should stay as such.
:I'm also pretty wary of it showing up in pages. Notice how this page here ''describes'' the problems with 3D very clearly, as well as having rating. The rating *and* descriptions would need to be integrated into each page, and I have no idea how to do that without looking awkward. Well, the only idea I've come up with is putting it into Emulation Information, but at that point, couldn't you just integrate the rating with the post? - [[User:MaJoR|MaJoR]] ([[User talk:MaJoR|talk]]) 15:57, 28 November 2015 (CET)

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Improvements?

Well, this is still a little early in, but you can kind of see the structure forming. Jump in with suggestions on better ways to handle it if you come up with any! - MaJoR (talk) 16:46, 7 August 2014 (CEST)

OK, this hasn't gotten much work in the past year. As of today, I'm leaning more to including the title specific content under the Enhancements section of each page where it's more likely to be seen with a link back here for the other details on 3d. Kolano (talk) 23:51, 25 November 2015 (CET)

I'd actually want to create a new rating system for 3D compatibility and integrate them into {{Infobox VG}}. They're made up of four sets of green stars and in case of game displaying 2D in 3D mode, we'll use an image of two green stars and two gray stars but there'll be text "2D" hovering above them. The rating parameter will be familiarized with compatibility rating system (0-5) except there'll be no "5", then for 2D, the parameter will be "2D" which coincidentally there'll be two green stars just like "2"! This sounds clever! Can this be done? I'm afraid we'd have to put arbitrary comment about 3D effect issues into Emu Info along with compatibility rating in the Infobox VG. Is it alright this way? Lucario (talk) 04:53, 28 November 2015 (CET)
Our general concern with ratings comes with the inability to clearly define rules for rating things that result in consistent assignments. I'm currently unclear we can work out rules beyond a Untested/0-2 star system (0: 3d unsupported (i.e. 2d games), 1: 3d /w Problems 2: Functional 3d), let us know if you have a clear ruleset for a more fine-grained system. Some level of significance around 3d Problems would be desirable, but I'm not sure clear rules can be defined. We shouldn't worry about the specific display of this info till we have a well defined system in place. Kolano (talk) 08:19, 28 November 2015 (CET)
Doesn't 0 stars mean "untested" in the compatibility rating system? I don't want to cause the confusion between "Untested" and "2D" for 0 stars. I've noticed the rating column only contains five different possibilies: "Not recommended", "Fair", "Good", "Excellent" and "No 3D". This is how I came up with four sets of stars for 3D rating system, there will not be fifth star to make up for "No 3D", but will in turn use the text "2D". It should have 2 stars similar to "Fair" as opposed to "Not Recommended" as I can imagine the latter one means "unplayable with 3D on" which I'm sure "2D" will not do like this, it's just 2D. I think the convergence setting actually works for 2D. Lucario (talk) 09:19, 28 November 2015 (CET)
0 stars does mean "untested" there, but it seemed odd to grant a title a star if it didn't support 3d at all. Though perhaps the more appropriate rating for them would be "Excellent" as they presumably work just fine /w 3d options set, they just fail to make use of 3d (which I'm guessing would be obvious for most of these titles). If we have a multi-star system we still need clearer rules on what distinguishes: "Fair", "Good", and "Excellent" (or perhaps just "Fair"/"Good since presumably "Excellent" means things just work as expected). I'm still leaning towards not having such a fine grained rating system, and leaving the discussion of specific issues under Enhancements to indicate the level or problems and proposed corrections.Kolano (talk) 10:19, 28 November 2015 (CET)
I'm okay with just three stars: Bad, OK, Excellent. Though I'd like to hear from JMC47 about this since it was him who made up five possibilies in the rating column I think. We'd still need to make up distinguish between "untested" and "not recommended". If we can't even give one star to "not recommend" then this will subtract a star down to just two sets of stars. :/ Lucario (talk) 11:28, 28 November 2015 (CET)
I'm OK with 1 star for "Not Recommended", presuming that means 3d output is significantly broken. I was just uncomfortable using that label for 2d titles that don't output 3d, but work just fine under 3d output modes. Kolano (talk) 12:32, 28 November 2015 (CET)
Oh right, I somehow thought you said to give 0 stars to the titles rated as "not recommended" in 3D rating compatibility. (I need a "not support 3d =/= not recommended" lesson apparently) I'd still like to give "2D" two stars to coincide with first digit in parameter "2". Lucario (talk) 12:53, 28 November 2015 (CET)
I am against stars. The silly stars are a huge problem for emulation rating, even when it's much simpler that 3D! 3D is so absurdly complicated! When this was brought up the stars idea was discussed, and I pushed strongly against it, and we settled for the current text technique. I think it should stay as such.
I'm also pretty wary of it showing up in pages. Notice how this page here describes the problems with 3D very clearly, as well as having rating. The rating *and* descriptions would need to be integrated into each page, and I have no idea how to do that without looking awkward. Well, the only idea I've come up with is putting it into Emulation Information, but at that point, couldn't you just integrate the rating with the post? - MaJoR (talk) 15:57, 28 November 2015 (CET)