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(Good source for dates: https://www.gamepro.de/nintendo/spiele/gc/hulk/33230.html <= Hulk is the example)
(Good source for dates: https://www.gamepro.de/nintendo/spiele/gc/hulk/33230.html <= Hulk is the example)


I have a small question. I saw you changed my GE edits to DE, which I am personaly all for. Why do GE and DE redirect you to the German page? As on the [[Dummy Page]]. Seems funny to me. EDIT: DE made problems on [[2 Games in 1: The Incredibles / Finding Nemo]]: maximum number of loops has been performed.
I have a small question. I saw you changed my GE edits to DE, which I am personally all for. Why do GE and DE redirect you to the German page? As on the [[Dummy Page]]. Seems funny to me. EDIT: DE made problems on [[2 Games in 1: The Incredibles / Finding Nemo]]: maximum number of loops has been performed.


: Looks like I had missed a few GE references that needed to be revised to DE. [[User:Kolano|Kolano]] ([[User talk:Kolano|talk]]) 00:37, 14 August 2018 (CEST)
: Looks like I had missed a few GE references that needed to be revised to DE. [[User:Kolano|Kolano]] ([[User talk:Kolano|talk]]) 00:37, 14 August 2018 (CEST)
:: Thanks for fixing it. [[User:Kimishima|Kimishima]] ([[User talk:Kimishima|talk]]) 20:01, 14 August 2018 (CEST)


=== F France ===
=== F France ===

Revision as of 19:02, 14 August 2018

Missing Banners (Compatibility List)

I dumbed the banners for 2 Games in 1: The Incredibles / Finding Nemo, 2 Games in 1: The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie / Battle for Bikini Bottom and 2 Games in 1: The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie / Tak 2: The Staff of Dreams (they look like exactly the same), because they are missing from the homepage. Could you do me a favor? Can I upload it to the wiki files, you add them to the website and after that delete them off the wiki files section? That would be a relief for me. - Kimishima (talk) 18:47, 20 July 2018 (CEST)

I've since forgotten the specific details, but I believe banner uploads to the main compatibility guide are handled via uploads that occur directly from the emulator (presuming you accepted the prompt about data uploads on it's initial install). Kolano (talk) 22:01, 20 July 2018 (CEST)
Okay, thanks! I accepted the prompt, so I shall wait and see. Do I need to have the game in my games list until then? Kimishima (talk) 22:52, 20 July 2018 (CEST)
I misremembered. For a while we had distributed a tool to allow uploading all the banners in your local cache, but it's apparently no longer supported. Go ahead and upload them here, and hopefully we can get them to the right hands to integrate them into the main site. Kolano (talk) 23:44, 20 July 2018 (CEST)
Okay, it's uploaded. Thank you very much for your help! Kimishima (talk) 09:31, 21 July 2018 (CEST)

Adding regional names, Redirects and Streamlining names with '''''X'''''

I have added some redirects, Japanese and European names to the wikis and Gamecube pages and changed ''X'', '''X''' (etc.) to '''''X'''''. I did that for Resident Evil, all gamecube games #, A and B. I saw on the Recent changes page that I probably cause a lot of trouble (number of edits). Should I revoke my changes (or most of them since some were corrections)? Should I go ahead and check C to Z? I'm feeling bad, because I have the feeling that I do things that I'm not allowed to. Kimishima (talk) 13:11, 24 July 2018 (CEST)

Though some discussion of any larger scale changes you plan to make is good. Don't generally be worried about the number of edits. Most everything you've done looks fine. The quoting standardization is good, and frequently gets overlooked since it's not that visible. We are also happy to see better completion of non-US titles. One related thing:
Kolano (talk) 14:46, 24 July 2018 (CEST)
Okay, thank you! How do I purge/delete/rename entire pages? The redirect will be unnecessary and the page would be renamed to Biohazard [...]. Kimishima (talk) 15:26, 24 July 2018 (CEST)
Those options normally appear under the "More" tab in the header, though deletes (and perhaps others) may be restricted to admin users. Kolano (talk) 21:47, 24 July 2018 (CEST)
Alright. I ask you if there is something I think should be done (if I can't do it myself). Kimishima (talk) 22:46, 24 July 2018 (CEST) EDIT: [1] needs to be deleted and the RE 0 Trial Edition should be renamed to Biohazard 0 Trial Edition (if you want to rename it. I'm not allowed.
Done Kolano (talk) 00:09, 25 July 2018 (CEST)

Autoconfirmed Users

Are you aware that new users aren't able to edit the wiki at all right now? I was reading on the forums that the permission was set to take three days, then let new users edit, but according to multiple people on the forums it's not working properly. There's reports of existing, old accounts used to make edits before not working either. I know that User:MayImilae said she'd take a look at it, but I thought I should tell you as well in case you didn't know. - Xerxes (talk) 21:02, 6 September 2017 (CEST)

Yeah, an unfortunate outcome from a particularly annoying spammer; who would happily manually work around captcha to continue spamming us. It's been a while now, so hopefully we can scale back the restrictions soon. Kolano (talk) 05:06, 12 January 2018 (CET)
Please request access in this Forum thread for now. Kolano (talk) 23:48, 20 July 2018 (CEST)

Regions and Games

1. Should we add regional names to the Gamecube game list if there are differences? (English, Japanese, French...)

Generally yes, though we may want avoid doing so in the case of exact translations to avoid listing 5+ EU translations of each name. Kolano (talk) 17:13, 8 August 2018 (CEST)
Okay (talk) 19:28, 8 August 2018 (CEST)

2. Should we all regional names to the wiki pages if there are differences?

Again, generally yes, but be cautious of listing exact translations. Kolano (talk) 17:13, 8 August 2018 (CEST)
Alright (talk) 19:28, 8 August 2018 (CEST)

3. Should we add regions like French (FR), Spanish(SP) etc. to the 'vgrelease' list for possible different release dates and country exclusive releases?

Generally we just list the earliest EU release date, but may want to consider listing more dates when there are differences. Would be good to understand how frequently such comes up. Such would also likely require rewriting how some of the vgrelease template logic works. Kolano (talk) 17:13, 8 August 2018 (CEST)
I will contact you when I have a complete list of dates. (talk) 19:28, 8 August 2018 (CEST)
It's really easy to add/remove regions from {{vgrelease}} so I added SP/FR for you. It doesn't affect any current pages to add them either. You can see it in the infobox on Dummy Page if you want. We might also want to do a generic year (and month) under "EU" alongside those and NL with more regions but idk it seems kind of pointless. That requires knowing separate release dates for French and Spanish releases though and I think only GameTDB has dates for particular regions in Europe? GameFAQS just says EU as far as I remember. - Xerxes (talk) 09:57, 11 August 2018 (CEST)
Aren't there also German specific releases (and perhaps a few others)? Kolano (talk) 09:59, 11 August 2018 (CEST)
Yeah we could match the regions in GameIDs with the regions in vgrelease, but that would take a long time to sort through all the IDs again and I'm lazy. - Xerxes (talk) 10:05, 11 August 2018 (CEST)
I added Germany, Italy, Scandinavia, and Taiwan/Hong Kong/Macau too. - Xerxes (talk) 10:29, 11 August 2018 (CEST)
Thank you for the effort! There are lots of old gaming magazines out there with release dates of the Gamecube era. I know some German websites I can search on. I can figure out other countries thanks to google translator. I figured some Korean and Japanese dates out with that method. One '2 in 1 Games' collection for the Gamecube is a German exclusive (The one with only one GID). Kimishima (talk) 15:49, 11 August 2018 (CEST)
It should be possible to use some dpl rules to quickly generate lists of titles with region specific GameIDs (refer the "Samples" column on the GameIDs page), which should allow titles needing edits to be quickly identified; though finding all the appropriate dates may still be a pain. 18:00, 11 August 2018 (CEST)

D Germany

RCDD52, SC7D52, RJAD52, RWAD78, GFSD69, G6FD69, GCQD7D, GNED78, GHKD7D, GO7D69, GOWD69, GNDD69, G9TD52, GUTD52, GQSDAF, GT3D52, RSND69, SSDDRV, SSWDRM, SGWD7K, GLSD64, G9RD7D, RUQD78, SQUDX3, GRFD78, RSCD7D, STVDSV, GSXD64, GUCD69, SSEDNG, GUGD69, SJXD41, GYWDE9, GSWD64, R59D4Q, SGODKP, RPTD52, SONDMR, GC3D78, GKJD78, SFRDRV, SGJDSV, RB9D78, SSCDWR, SA9D7K, SCQDRV, SUYDRV, SHGDRM, SPMDRM, SOBD7K, GGVD78, GYAD78, SG6DSV, RNSD69, GEND69, STTDRM, SPYDSV, GDED71, GMKD5D, SD8DSV, GKLD69, RZJD69, GSMD52, R4DDUS, SUZD7K, SK8D52, SD3DSV, GBWD64, RLADMR, SGQDSV, SG3DSV, GU3D78, SM8D52, G2CD52, GLCD52, GAZD69, GGRD41, G3RD52, RXDD4Q, NAKD01, NAND01, WGSD08, JA7D01, JADD01, JAZD01, JB3D01, JBDD01, JCLD01, R58DMR, R5YD78, RMNDFR, RVYD52, G2FD78, G3AD69, G3FD69, G4FD69, GBHDC8, GDID7D, GF4D52, GF5D69, GF6D69, GFAD69, GFDD69, GH4D69, GH5D52, GHCD4Q, GHMD4F, GICD78, GIHD78, GJKD52, GJUD78, GK2D52, GKZD54, GL8D4F, GLOD69, GLRD64, GLVD4Q, GLZD69, GM5D7D, GMFD69, GMWD52, GO2D4F, GOND69, GOYD69, GPHD52, GPLD9G, GQCD52, GQQD78, GR6D78, GR8D69, GS2D78, GT4D52, GTKD51, GU2D78, GUMD52, GVLD69, GW5D69, GW7D69, GWAD8P, GX2D52, GXFD69, S32DJW, GCOD52, GJND78, GQ4D78, RWFD41, RYLDSV, S33DKM, S34DKM, SHEDRM, SKLDSV, SL7DML, SP6DSV, SU3DMR, SFLDSV, JAFD01, W2GD08, W3GD08, HC2DAX, SL5DKM, JDZD01, RW4D41

(Good source for dates: https://www.gamepro.de/nintendo/spiele/gc/hulk/33230.html <= Hulk is the example)

I have a small question. I saw you changed my GE edits to DE, which I am personally all for. Why do GE and DE redirect you to the German page? As on the Dummy Page. Seems funny to me. EDIT: DE made problems on 2 Games in 1: The Incredibles / Finding Nemo: maximum number of loops has been performed.

Looks like I had missed a few GE references that needed to be revised to DE. Kolano (talk) 00:37, 14 August 2018 (CEST)
Thanks for fixing it. Kimishima (talk) 20:01, 14 August 2018 (CEST)

F France

SC7F52, G6FF69, GCOF52, GQCF52, GHCF4Q, G9RF7D, GF4F52, GF6F69, GXFF69, GAZF69, GHMF4F, GICF78, GO7F69, G3AF69, GMHF52, GR8F69, GM5F7D, GUGF69, G3RF52, GK2F52, GJKF52, GSWF64, GLRF64, GJUF78, G3FF69, GT4F52, GXMF52, GQSFAF, RXKFGL, RRUFRT, GW5F69, GLSF64, G9TF52, SERF4Q, GQFFFK, GL8F4F, R54FMR, RVEFMR, RVXFRT, RW5F41, RRJFMR, RT6FKM, RJ9FMR, SVXF52, RXHF5D, R6DFJW, RFYFMR, GXQF41, GU2F78, GLLF78, RITFMR, SQUFX3, RPAF70, RLNFMR, GENF69, GOWF69, GT3F52, GCQF7D, GO2F4F, RNSF69, GONF69, SONFMR, STIFKM, R57FMR, SM8F52, GLCF52, GSXF64, RSNF69, GUTF52, GRUF78, NAKF01, NANF01, WGSF08, FA8F01, JA7F01, JADF01, JCLF01, R55F41, R58FMR, R7TFJW, REAF69, REWFMR, RGFF69, RJ7FWP, RMXF78, RQ9F69, RT7F69, RTUFKM, RVTFMR, R7YFMR, G2FF78, G4FF69, GBHFC8, GBWF64, GC3F78, GDEF71, GF5F69, GFAF69, GFDF69, GFIF69, GH4F69, GH5F52, GHKF7D, GHUF7D, GKJF78, GKLF69, GKZF54, GLOF69, GLVF4Q, GLZF69, GMFF69, GMWF52, GNDF69, GNEF78, GOYF69, GPHF52, GPLF9G, GQ4F78, GQQF78, GR6F78, GRFF78, GS2F78, GSMF52, GUCF69, GVLF69, GW7F69, GWAF8P, S33FKM, S32FJW, GFSF69, RZYF41, RWNF70, RWFF41, S34FKM, SSCFPM, SU3FMR, SUSFMR, JAFF01, GIHF78, GBDF7D, SL5FKM, JDZF01, W2GF08, W3GF08

(Good source for dates: http://www.jeuxvideo.com/jeux/gamecube-ngc/00010773-hulk.htm <= Hulk is the example)

H Netherlands

SPWHZH, GAZH69, RL2HMR, RLNHMR, RMNHMN, RTEHMR, GF5H69, GF6H69, GGZH52, GH4H69, GICH78, GKJH78, GQQH78, GF4H52, RJ9HMN, RWFH41, SU3HMR

I Italy

SC7I52, GQSIAF, RIAI52, SVXI52, SM8I52, GAZI69, GSWI64, GUTI52, NAKI01, WGSI08, RGFI69, RLNIMR, RRJIMR, RUQI78, G9TI52, GF4I52, GF5I69, GFAI69, GGZI52, GH4I69, GKLI69, GLOI69, GMFI69, GQCI52, GXFI69, SK8I52, GF6I69, R58IMR, RRMI69, SB7IVU, SIAI52, SK4I52, SSCIPM, W2GI08, W3GI08, JODIHB

K Korea

SFWK69, RUUK01, RYWK01, RVYK52, RCOKZF, R6BK78, RF8K69, RF9K69, R4RK69, RGHK52, RZDK01, RWSK01, RMCK01, RM8K01, SMNK01, RNHK8M, RY2K41, RD2K41, RSXK69, RMGK01, R8PK01, R9OK69, RVKKZA, RWAK78, RODK01, R64K01, RSPK01, RZTK01, RTZK08, RY3K41, RFPK01, SB4K01, RBKK69, RK5K01, R96KAF, RSBK01, SOUK01, RFQK69, HACK01, RHAK01, SUPK01, RH6K69, SUKK01, HABK01, SQKK01, S22K01, SK6KJD, RDXKA4, RTDK8M, RSSK52, R2PKZ4, RKAK8M, RTKK8M, RKFKZA, RNZK69, RMLK52, S7AKZA, SBDK08, RBUK08, SVMK01, RNPK69, RX9K69, RKPK52, RTFK52, SSQK01, RZPK01, R4QK01, R9IK01, RWLK01, SOMK01, SC8K01, SERK8M, S7AKWR, SJDK41, RSHK69, R9TK69, RSLKAF, RT8K69, R4CK69, RUSK78, SFWK13, SD2K41, SIIK01, ROLK01, FCYK01, HAVK01, HCFK01, HAYK01, RFNK01, RELKA4, RNWKAF, RYKK01, SL8K01, SROKZ5, GNEK78, GIJKC0, SROKQC, HCRK01, HAKK01, HALK01

R Russia

RY2R41, RMGR01, RWAR78, RFPR01, RVLRRW, R5IR4Q, RXDR4Q, RF9R69, RLUR4Q, RUER4Q, SCYR4Q, STSR4Q

S Spain

GQSSAF, SU3SMR, SV6SRV, RC4SGT, SM8S52, SC7S52, GUTS52, GMFS69, RV7SMR, GBWS64, R8IS78, SACSVS, GLCS52, GSWS64, NAKS01, R58SMR, RGFS69, RQ9S69, RUQS78, G3AS69, G3FS69, GAZS69, GBDS7D, GENS69, GF5S69, GF6S69, GFAS69, GGZS52, GH4S69, GHKS7D, GKJS78, GKLS69, GLOS69, GNES78, GO7S69, GOYS69, GQCS52, GSXS64, GX2S52, GXFS69, GF4S52, RZYS41, RWFS41, S33SKM, S34SKM, SBVS78, SSCSPM, RELS01, W2GS08, W3GS08, WGSS08, RELS8P

(Good source: http://www.meristation.com.mx/gamecube/the-hulk/juego/1512176 and https://as.com/meristation/plataformas/gamecube/juegos/)

U Australia

R6KU36, RWAU78, D43U01, SIUUNG, SAFUHS, SS6UHS, SS7URN, D4BU01, SBSURN, SESUWR, RM2U69, GAFU01, SS4UWR, RPFU52, RSCU7D, G97U01, GPAU01, SS3UWR, STAU78, SU3UMR, D95U01, D93U01, D87U01, WHPUGL

V Scandinavia

SK8V52, SSEVNG, SERV4Q, RKPV52, RU5V4Q

W Taiwan / Hong Kong / Macau

SB4W01, RSPW01, SMNW01, RFNW01, SSQW01, RZTW01, RHAW01, RFPW01, D43W01, RLWW78, GEDW01, GP5W01, VIEW08
Perfect! Thank you! Kimishima (talk) 10:29, 12 August 2018 (CEST)

4. Should we alter the 'CompatListHeader' to include French (FR), Spanish (SP), Swedish (SW), Netherlandish (NE), Italian (IT) and German (GE)?

I think there are likely a few others to include, refer GameIDs#Region_Code, but I also think Dolphin generally lumps many of those under it's EU label (i.e. I believe they get an EU flag banner in the UI). This wouldn't just be about updating that template as we'd also need to break things out differently in the Region column of each title list, which will be significant effort that we may want to avoid. Kolano (talk) 17:13, 8 August 2018 (CEST)
Dolphin separates them. A German game will show a German flag, French games the French flag etc. (with [these] codes. Here a picture (Uploaded to Twitter) Kimishima (talk) 19:28, 8 August 2018 (CEST)

Kimishima (talk) 10:51, 8 August 2018 (CEST)