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Want to say or ask something? Just click "Add topic" above, I'll get into it when possible. [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] ([[User talk:Jhonn|talk]])
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== Navbox styling ==
Could you please replace <code>content: " ·";</code> with <code>content: " · ";</code> in [[MediaWiki:Common.css]]? That way navboxes would show "first · second" instead of "first ·second". [[User:Flacs|Flacs]] ([[User talk:Flacs|talk]]) 23:45, 24 November 2019 (CET)
: Revised, but not seeing any effect as of yet. Presuming there is some caching that needs to expire. [[User:Kolano|Kolano]] ([[User talk:Kolano|talk]]) 00:22, 25 November 2019 (CET)
:: Well, it's a CSS change, might need to clear your browser cache or use Ctrl+Shift+R to reload the affected pages instead of F5... [[User:mbc07|mbc07]] ([[User talk:mbc07|talk]]) 06:17, 25 November 2019 (CET)


== 21:9 ==
== Batman Begins game ini link ==
I presume you'll want to revert the recent update to [[007: Nightfire‎]] (i.e. 21:9 AR Code). I don't mind following that convention, but if we do we need to document it under [[Project:Wiki_Conventions]]. We currently don't document acceptable ARs. [[User:Kolano|Kolano]] ([[User talk:Kolano|talk]]) 04:58, 1 March 2016 (CET)
Can I ask why you reverted my change on the Batman Begins page to use the link to the wiki itself back to the forum thread? [https://wiki.dolphin-emu.org/index.php?title=Batman_Begins&diff=171817&oldid=171812 (The change I'm referring to.)] I think it would be better to link to the relevant section directly in the wiki itself than the forum thread. [[User:Hman360|Hman360]] ([[User talk:Hman360|talk]]) 01:15, 20 April 2020 (CEST)


: I tried to dig the talk page where we discussed this but I couldn't find it. As far as I remember we were close to getting a consensus to add only 16:9 codes I think, because we started having a lot of weird AR codes  popping out, taking a lot of space in the (at that time) patches section (48:10 or similar in Super Mario Sunshine? Don't remember now). Theoretically an existing (and decrypted) 16:9 code can be turned in any other AR by just adjusting the values so in future I would like to investigate the possibility of doing something allowing the user to get different ARs without cluttering the page with various codes that looks almost like duplicates (except for the value bytes, of course). I'm not sure either but MaJoR seems to prefer sticking to 4:3 and 16:9 only too. Anyway we need to get this sorted out soon (I'll wait reverting the 007 code until we conclude this) - [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] ([[User talk:Jhonn|talk]]) 05:57, 1 March 2016 (CET)
: I would guess they were just trying to revise the Issues link in your original edit, prior to you revising it to use the internal GameIni link, overwriting your secondary change. I've restored it. [[User:Kolano|Kolano]] ([[User talk:Kolano|talk]]) 01:52, 20 April 2020 (CEST)


:: Looks like this is going to be easy.
: Indeed, my edit was only to use the issue template. Don't know what happened but the wiki showed the previous edit (with the forum link) as the latest revision when I did the change. [[User:mbc07|mbc07]] ([[User talk:mbc07|talk]]) 02:09, 20 April 2020 (CEST)
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== Enhancements ==
=== 16:9 Aspect Ratio ===
Green texts are modifiable aspect ratio value. Check [[Other Codes#Aspect Ratio|here]] for other aspect ratio values.
==== NTSC-U ====
040037A0 3C608000
040037A4 C38337AC
040037A8 4805ACBC
040037AC <span style="color:#0c0;">3FE38E39</span>
0405E460 4BFA5340


==== PAL (English) ====
: Ah, understood, thanks guys! [[User:Hman360|Hman360]] ([[User talk:Hman360|talk]]) 04:00, 20 April 2020 (CEST)
8C05F4BC 7C7E1B78
040037A0 3C608000
040037A4 C38337AC
040037A8 4805BD1C
040037AC <span style="color:#0c0;">3FE38E39</span>
0405F4C0 4BFA42E0
00000000 40000000
 
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:: Yep, they're for AC lol. The second sentence in there is when we want to create "Other Codes" guide page (or how we want to name it) that will list many different AR values and list other codes like frame rate codes other than 60. Any feedback? [[User:Lucario|Lucario]] ([[User talk:Lucario|talk]]) 09:28, 30 April 2016 (CEST)
::: It's somewhat how I thought, but there are some flaws. The first (and probably the most important) is how are we going to keep track of the values? They won't be the same for every game, and on this mockup I see you're linking to another page where it seems we would store a list of values? If that's the case, in long term it's going to get bigger and messy... - [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] ([[User talk:Jhonn|talk]]) 08:24, 1 May 2016 (CEST)
:::: We may have to list the correct value for each aspect ratio corresponding to the original modifiable value users find on the game page (in green text). As the page becoming cluttered over time, we probably shouldn't care. It's unified and better than seeing other users trying to clutter in each game page. But we may have to worry about modifiable value that is unique to a game though... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ If that page comes into realization I'll try add a friendly rule saying that users should keep non-existent aspect ratio to themselves. [[User:Lucario|Lucario]] ([[User talk:Lucario|talk]]) 09:21, 2 May 2016 (CEST)
 
: I'm a bit unclear regarding the need for 4:3 codes. I don't think too many will be trying to downgrade 16:9 games to 4:3. We should allow for some subset of more common AR's though. Clearly, 16:9, and 16:10 is also fairly common. Apparently 21:9 is fairly common as well (though I hate that it's naming is such marketing cruft, since it's really 21 1/3:9 and should be expressed as 7:3 if it were exact).[[User:Kolano|Kolano]] ([[User talk:Kolano|talk]]) 06:33, 1 March 2016 (CET)
 
: I feel very strongly that *only* codes that increase 4:3 to 16:9 (the most common use case) should be allowed. Things can get extremely messy otherwise, and the more pick and choose we try to be, the harder it will be to defend against "if you accept this, why not accept this too?". By just firmly saying 4:3 to 16:9 only,  that at least gives us something to say in those arguments that makes reasonable sense. I guess I'd be ok with a 16:9 to 4:3 code if it is a game that doesn't have 4:3 mode, but that seems super rare. - [[User:MaJoR|MaJoR]] ([[User talk:MaJoR|talk]]) 09:15, 1 March 2016 (CET)
 
: I'm with Jhonn on finding a way to tell other users that they can modify the value in a given AR code to get a different AR. I'd like to say I don't support 4:3 code, but have realized I should because it will provide the code in the first address before the value for AR for the other users to use with their arbitrary AR value. I'm not sure how to provide AR code for the games that already support both 16:9 and 4:3. I may be in for 21:9 for this reason. [[User:Lucario|Lucario]] ([[User talk:Lucario|talk]]) 13:47, 4 March 2016 (CET)
 
:: Is there a consistent way to do this? Could we perhaps make a guide? Like, only list 16:9 codes (for the games that need it) and link to a guide that gives instructions for other ratios? - [[User:MaJoR|MaJoR]] ([[User talk:MaJoR|talk]]) 13:52, 4 March 2016 (CET)
 
:::Pretty much what I have in my mind. :) But I think it will be not much of help for the games that already support both 4:3 and 16:9 because we don't allow code for 21:9. Maybe in the end we just have to let other editors include 21:9. Then the guide will be useless either way. [[User:Lucario|Lucario]] ([[User talk:Lucario|talk]]) 14:32, 4 March 2016 (CET)
 
:::: A guide is the perfect way around this. All we have to do is list 16:9 codes on the page, and link to the guide that instructs users to go to 4:3 or 21:9 or any other weird ratios they want! I don't see why anyone would have a problem with that solution. :D ...Assuming there is in fact a pattern or something we can teach in a guide, of course. - [[User:MaJoR|MaJoR]] ([[User talk:MaJoR|talk]]) 14:36, 4 March 2016 (CET)
 
:::::Yes, it will have use for the 4:3 only games and then it will eventually teach users how to modify the code to 21:9 for these games. The games that support 16:9 will miss out 21:9 because there's no way to provide the game's unique code if we don't allow 21:9. [[User:Lucario|Lucario]] ([[User talk:Lucario|talk]]) 14:46, 4 March 2016 (CET)
 
:::::Would you be fine with 21:9 if it's for games that already have 16:9 support? [[User:Lucario|Lucario]] ([[User talk:Lucario|talk]]) 09:28, 30 April 2016 (CEST)
::::::With our current design, no, it would take too much space. However, if we could find a way to show those 21:9 codes without cluttering the page (I had some ideas a while ago but didn't try to get them on the wiki yet -- maybe soon, too busy ATM), I would probably be in favour given that 21:9 TV/Monitors seems to be getting popular nowadays. Anyway, if that ever happens in future, I would also want a very strict set of rules/reasons backing that to prevent future complaints like "if 21:9 AR is allowed, why not 48:10 or 5:4 or <insert any other weird AR here>?" - [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] ([[User talk:Jhonn|talk]]) 08:24, 1 May 2016 (CEST)

Revision as of 04:00, 20 April 2020

Navbox styling

Could you please replace content: " ·"; with content: " · "; in MediaWiki:Common.css? That way navboxes would show "first · second" instead of "first ·second". Flacs (talk) 23:45, 24 November 2019 (CET)

Revised, but not seeing any effect as of yet. Presuming there is some caching that needs to expire. Kolano (talk) 00:22, 25 November 2019 (CET)
Well, it's a CSS change, might need to clear your browser cache or use Ctrl+Shift+R to reload the affected pages instead of F5... mbc07 (talk) 06:17, 25 November 2019 (CET)

Batman Begins game ini link

Can I ask why you reverted my change on the Batman Begins page to use the link to the wiki itself back to the forum thread? (The change I'm referring to.) I think it would be better to link to the relevant section directly in the wiki itself than the forum thread. Hman360 (talk) 01:15, 20 April 2020 (CEST)

I would guess they were just trying to revise the Issues link in your original edit, prior to you revising it to use the internal GameIni link, overwriting your secondary change. I've restored it. Kolano (talk) 01:52, 20 April 2020 (CEST)
Indeed, my edit was only to use the issue template. Don't know what happened but the wiki showed the previous edit (with the forum link) as the latest revision when I did the change. mbc07 (talk) 02:09, 20 April 2020 (CEST)
Ah, understood, thanks guys! Hman360 (talk) 04:00, 20 April 2020 (CEST)
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