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=== Titles without GameINI entries vs Rating ===
=== Titles without GameINI entries vs Rating ===
Okay, I'll get straight to the point. I don't think that problems caused due incorrect configuration (e.g. a non-default setting or a title with missing GameINI) should affect the rating of such title. Since we have established that entries under Problems section '''do affect''' the rating, my proposal is moving those entries related to issues that happen due incorrect configuration to the Emulation Information (as it's caused due bad config, not due an inaccuracy of the emulator) and leave the Problems section just for problems that will happen regardless of the settings (these are the real problems to my understanding). Given how the wiki evolved those years this feel natural to me (e.g. we already do the same with entries of enhancements that causes issues being on Enhancements instead of the Problems section) and I think it would at least alleviate the issues we have with the current rating system. Some "real-world" examples of what I'm proposing can be seen in [[Amazon Instant Video Channel]], [[Crunchyroll Channel]], [[Hulu Plus Channel]], [[YouTube Channel]] and [[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]. - [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] ([[User talk:Jhonn|talk]]) 01:56, 13 March 2017 (CET)
Okay, I'll get straight to the point. I don't think that problems caused due incorrect configuration (e.g. a non-default setting or a title with missing GameINI) should affect the rating of such title. Since we have established that entries under Problems section '''do affect''' the rating, my proposal is moving those entries related to issues that happen due incorrect configuration to the Emulation Information (as it's caused due bad config, not due an inaccuracy of the emulator) and leave the Problems section just for problems that will happen regardless of the settings (these are the real problems to my understanding). Given how the wiki evolved those years this feel natural to me (e.g. we already do the same with entries of enhancements that causes issues being on Enhancements instead of the Problems section) and I think it would at least alleviate the issues we have with the current rating system. Some "real-world" examples of what I'm proposing can be seen in [[Amazon Instant Video Channel]], [[Crunchyroll Channel]], [[Hulu Plus Channel]], [[YouTube Channel]] and [[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]. - [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] ([[User talk:Jhonn|talk]]) 01:56, 13 March 2017 (CET)
: I'm fairly strongly opposed to this handling. In most cases we have options (i.e. the gameINIs) to resolve configuration related issues out of the box. For the most part these should be simple changes to implement, we have even tried to make this easier by providing explicit lists of titles requiring each config change. I can probably pump out some pages to reference things by the GameIDs to make it even easier if that will help.
:It's seems preferable for games to be emulated appropriately by default than to rely on people looking up and re-configuring things for each title they want to emulate. The majority of titles who's ratings are impacted by these things can be corrected by GameINI updates. I'm unclear it's inappropriate to push for such, as for the most part such updates seem simple to implement (I don't have time to look into it now, but would be happy to do so give a few months).
: That said, there are a limited number of titles where accurate emulation results in undesirable performance impacts, Smash Bro's for instance. I'd be more comfortable with elevating specific issues like that to Emulation Information. At the same time, in such cases, I'd hope for specific acknowledgement that a recognized issue exists, and is being ignored by developers for performance reasons.
: In some cases GameIni settings may not exist, which is a separate problem. Though I think we have fairly good parity with critical settings and the ini's now.
:[[User:Kolano|Kolano]] ([[User talk:Kolano|talk]]) 06:08, 13 March 2017 (CET)


=== Problems / Global Problems Merging ===
=== Problems / Global Problems Merging ===