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:I recall the shrinking performed by that tool caused problems for a sub-set of titles, though I can't remember the details. [[User:Kolano|Kolano]] ([[User talk:Kolano|talk]]) 08:53, 28 April 2015 (CEST) | :I recall the shrinking performed by that tool caused problems for a sub-set of titles, though I can't remember the details. [[User:Kolano|Kolano]] ([[User talk:Kolano|talk]]) 08:53, 28 April 2015 (CEST) | ||
::Noted as the first test I performed with GCMUtility caused [[Pokémon Colosseum Bonus Disc]] to hang when loading the Jirachi mode. Not sure if it is the fault of GCMUtility or Dolphin. Have to test it on my real Wii using [https://code.google.com/p/diosmios DIOS-MIOS] to be sure it is GCMUtility or Dolphin. --[[User:Wildgoosespeeder|Wildgoosespeeder]] ([[User talk:Wildgoosespeeder|talk]]) 00:37, 29 April 2015 (CEST) | ::Noted as the first test I performed with GCMUtility caused [[Pokémon Colosseum Bonus Disc]] to hang when loading the Jirachi mode. Not sure if it is the fault of GCMUtility or Dolphin. Have to test it on my real Wii using [https://code.google.com/p/diosmios DIOS-MIOS] to be sure it is GCMUtility or Dolphin. --[[User:Wildgoosespeeder|Wildgoosespeeder]] ([[User talk:Wildgoosespeeder|talk]]) 00:37, 29 April 2015 (CEST) | ||
::: I disagree using 3rd party tools, this can flood Dolphin forums with users that got random issues because they screwed their ISOs with 3rd party tools. However, if you guys '''really''' want to add an optional section for ISO compressing, I think it should use Dolphin built-in GCZ compressor only instead of GCMUtility or other 3rd party tool -- GCZ is reliable (never caused issues to any title as far as I know) and also works with Wii ISOs... - [[User: | ::: I disagree using 3rd party tools, this can flood Dolphin forums with users that got random issues because they screwed their ISOs with 3rd party tools. However, if you guys '''really''' want to add an optional section for ISO compressing, I think it should use Dolphin built-in GCZ compressor only instead of GCMUtility or other 3rd party tool -- GCZ is reliable (never caused issues to any title as far as I know) and also works with Wii ISOs... - [[User:mbc07|mbc07]] ([[User talk:mbc07|talk]]) | ||
::::I just tested the Pokémon Colosseum Bonus Disc image compressed with GCMUtility through DIOS-MIOS on Wii. GCMUtility is faulty. Dolphin is emulating correctly. The Wii in GameCube mode froze the same way as Dolphin did. I see three methods to rip game discs to images so I don't see why we can't have more than just the Dolphin compress option available, if there will exist a guide to compress disc images. I guess it would need to have a warning if someone were to use the GCMUtility method that some GCMUtility-compressed disc images have issues vs. their uncompressed counterparts. So should a guide exist how to compress disc images, and if so, should Dolphin only method be mentioned? --[[User:Wildgoosespeeder|Wildgoosespeeder]] ([[User talk:Wildgoosespeeder|talk]]) 07:34, 29 April 2015 (CEST) | ::::I just tested the Pokémon Colosseum Bonus Disc image compressed with GCMUtility through DIOS-MIOS on Wii. GCMUtility is faulty. Dolphin is emulating correctly. The Wii in GameCube mode froze the same way as Dolphin did. I see three methods to rip game discs to images so I don't see why we can't have more than just the Dolphin compress option available, if there will exist a guide to compress disc images. I guess it would need to have a warning if someone were to use the GCMUtility method that some GCMUtility-compressed disc images have issues vs. their uncompressed counterparts. So should a guide exist how to compress disc images, and if so, should Dolphin only method be mentioned? --[[User:Wildgoosespeeder|Wildgoosespeeder]] ([[User talk:Wildgoosespeeder|talk]]) 07:34, 29 April 2015 (CEST) | ||
:: I don't really think it's appropriate to guide users to compression tools. Most compression techniques work by stripping data from ISOs. It usually will be ok, but often it isn't, and since the dumping process itself is already messy and error-prone, I don't really think it's appropriate to guide users to something that can compound those problems. The only way for us to know if something is dolphin or their dump is to eliminate the dump as a possible error, and that means their dump needs to be a valid uncompressed ISO. Even with disclaimers, just telling users how to do is is encouragement, and I think that's a bad idea. - [[User:MaJoR|MaJoR]] ([[User talk:MaJoR|talk]]) 08:13, 29 April 2015 (CEST) | :: I don't really think it's appropriate to guide users to compression tools. Most compression techniques work by stripping data from ISOs. It usually will be ok, but often it isn't, and since the dumping process itself is already messy and error-prone, I don't really think it's appropriate to guide users to something that can compound those problems. The only way for us to know if something is dolphin or their dump is to eliminate the dump as a possible error, and that means their dump needs to be a valid uncompressed ISO. Even with disclaimers, just telling users how to do is is encouragement, and I think that's a bad idea. - [[User:MaJoR|MaJoR]] ([[User talk:MaJoR|talk]]) 08:13, 29 April 2015 (CEST) | ||