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+=== Universal problems are buried ===
+I know VC titles are pretty low on the totem pole, but they are pretty cool to play in Dolphin. That said, they are kind of a crapshoot. There are a lot of problems with these games. NES, SNES, Genesis, they all have universal issues spanning every game. But uh, the universal problems are only on the system pages. The virtual console page shows every title, and people just click the game in that and boom. It's convenient, but no one goes to the system pages where the universal problems are. No one ever sees the universal problems. So, I have two solutions I'd like to propose to fix this.
+*1. A grid of buttons for systems on the Virtual Console page, sort of like the mainpage's. That way people can easily access pages for systems, and see the universal problems and stuff. Of course I'll have to dust off that gamepage project and get them up to snuff, but eh, I can do that.
+*2. A universal issues template. Considering it would only have to copy paste text, it should be pretty simple. The only issue I can forsee is integrating it in with the layout of the pages (like how various problems have links in the nav). Might be worth ignoring that however. But yea, ideally, all we'd have to do is put <nowiki>{{universalproblems|SNES}}</nowiki> onto all the SNES game pages, and bam, we have a super easy way to change the universal problems across the board.
+Any thoughts on these ideas? For or against? - [[User:MaJoR|MaJoR]] ([[User talk:MaJoR|talk]]) 20:09, 5 March 2013 (CET)
+:Hm, I liked... I can help with the templates, and if we change the main [[Virtual Console]] page to grid of buttons (like the main page), I can delete some crappy templates we've around here (some unfinished work that I didn't touch in the last 2 years -- completely useless now). Also, since we're going to do major changes in the main [[Virtual Console]], we could implement also an infobox with common information about the service, like the infobox we got in GameCube and Wii page. Regardless of what we do, I'm in with this whole thing - [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] ([[User talk:Jhonn|talk]]) 22:29, 5 March 2013 (CET)
+:I'd also be on board for both changes. Sub-pages for VC systems will eliminate some of the template issues there (i.e. one can't edit the lists from the main page), and generating {{{{universalproblems}} templates will allow universal issues to be universally shown (though some special handling may be needed to get the edit links right). I'd also suggest adding sub-links below the "Virtual Console" link in the sidebar for the system pages, which would make them more quickly accessible. [[User:Kolano|Kolano]] ([[User talk:Kolano|talk]]) 00:43, 6 March 2013 (CET)
+I hadn't forgotten about this, I just hadn't gotten around to implementing it. That ends now :D. First up is making the Virtual Console list use thumbnails. See [[Virtual Console/sandbox1]]. There are a couple of things I'd like you guys' input on.
+*Thumbnail arrangement - I took a very different approach here than what the main page does.  I really like it. It's much more flexible, able to span all of a giant widescreen monitor or compress down to be easy to use on a phone in portrait. And it matches the nature of the text. I like it so much I'd like to use it on the mainpage if possible. What do you guys think? I could always go with what the mainpage does instead (centered, 5x2 arrangement).
+*Arcade versus Virtual Console Arcade - Nintendo calls it the "Virtual Console Arcade", but here on the wiki it's always been just "Arcade". Any objections to changing it to Virtual Console Arcade? I'd rather like to do that.
+*The Platforms template lacks a lot of options that I could use. See [[wikipedia:Virtual Console]]. Any objections if I add a whole bunch?
+Random block of text so my signature ins't in the bullet points and it's easier to comment beneath me. - [[User:MaJoR|MaJoR]] ([[User talk:MaJoR|talk]]) 18:34, 19 July 2013 (CEST)
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 :::: Unfortunately we can't rely on that entirely. Skyward Sword uses AX. - [[User:MaJoR|MaJoR]] ([[User talk:MaJoR|talk]]) 22:20, 2 April 2013 (CEST)
 ::There are [http://wiki.dolphin-emu.org/index.php?title=Special:Search&limit=500&offset=0&redirs=0&ns0=1&search=HLE a lot of HLE mentions] on the Wiki though it's unclear how many of those ~2132 results are from test results and the like (If we can perform a regex search we can probably whittle that down to just the pages mentioning HLE in problems/compatibility). My guess would be that the HLE update will effect a bunch of titles that we never logged problems for though, so appropriately accounting for the update will still be problematic, even if we account for reviewing all the current HLE issues. I wonder if we could work out some scanning tools, similar to the ones for the title icon uploads to get a better DB of these sorts of wide-scale software types. There are various issues related to use of certain unsupported video codecs that might also be nice to scan for, I'm guessing there are other examples.[[User:Kolano|Kolano]] ([[User talk:Kolano|talk]]) 22:13, 2 April 2013 (CEST)
-=== Universal problems are buried ===
-I know VC titles are pretty low on the totem pole, but they are pretty cool to play in Dolphin. That said, they are kind of a crapshoot. There are a lot of problems with these games. NES, SNES, Genesis, they all have universal issues spanning every game. But uh, the universal problems are only on the system pages. The virtual console page shows every title, and people just click the game in that and boom. It's convenient, but no one goes to the system pages where the universal problems are. No one ever sees the universal problems. So, I have two solutions I'd like to propose to fix this.
-*1. A grid of buttons for systems on the Virtual Console page, sort of like the mainpage's. That way people can easily access pages for systems, and see the universal problems and stuff. Of course I'll have to dust off that gamepage project and get them up to snuff, but eh, I can do that.
-*2. A universal issues template. Considering it would only have to copy paste text, it should be pretty simple. The only issue I can forsee is integrating it in with the layout of the pages (like how various problems have links in the nav). Might be worth ignoring that however. But yea, ideally, all we'd have to do is put <nowiki>{{universalproblems|SNES}}</nowiki> onto all the SNES game pages, and bam, we have a super easy way to change the universal problems across the board.
-Any thoughts on these ideas? For or against? - [[User:MaJoR|MaJoR]] ([[User talk:MaJoR|talk]]) 20:09, 5 March 2013 (CET)
-:Hm, I liked... I can help with the templates, and if we change the main [[Virtual Console]] page to grid of buttons (like the main page), I can delete some crappy templates we've around here (some unfinished work that I didn't touch in the last 2 years -- completely useless now). Also, since we're going to do major changes in the main [[Virtual Console]], we could implement also an infobox with common information about the service, like the infobox we got in GameCube and Wii page. Regardless of what we do, I'm in with this whole thing - [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] ([[User talk:Jhonn|talk]]) 22:29, 5 March 2013 (CET)
-:I'd also be on board for both changes. Sub-pages for VC systems will eliminate some of the template issues there (i.e. one can't edit the lists from the main page), and generating {{{{universalproblems}} templates will allow universal issues to be universally shown (though some special handling may be needed to get the edit links right). I'd also suggest adding sub-links below the "Virtual Console" link in the sidebar for the system pages, which would make them more quickly accessible. [[User:Kolano|Kolano]] ([[User talk:Kolano|talk]]) 00:43, 6 March 2013 (CET)
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