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=== Broken Image Sizing ===
== 2010 ==
Apparently this issue appeared after site admin updated to Mediawiki 1.6. The current workaround that I've encountered is reuploading the image with resizing problems in PNG format. (I'm not sure if GIF have this bug too) [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] 22:33, 7 December 2010 (CET)
 
=== Incorrect Ratings ===
More and more I'm noticing people incorrectly changing the ratings putting a number directly on the list instead of in the ratings pages just undid 2 of the them from the same person.
 
We need all users to understand not to change the ratings that way or a way to prevent it as its going to get annoying and harder to change. [[Special:Contributions/122.104.103.221|122.104.103.221]] 20:16, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
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I think this is generally due to folks being unaware of how to work with the ratings templates. Some suggestions:
*Revise the ratings template to recognize the numbers an provide info on appropriate corrections.
*Revise the rating template so ratings link to the appropriate ratings edit page. I'm guessing this would mean generating separate templates per system.
 
However, we'll likely still see this (and the similar issue of pages using the rating vs ratings template) even then. Unfortunately the best solution may be to just continue to monitor things. The searches below can help with such...
*[http://www.dolphin-emulator.com/wiki/index.php?title=Special:Search&ns0=1&redirs=1&search=Rating|&limit=100&offset=0 Use of the rating rather than ratings template] (some unrelated results mixed in)
*[http://www.dolphin-emulator.com/wiki/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=%22ratings|0%22+%22ratings|1%22+%22ratings|2%22+%22ratings|3%22+%22ratings|4%22+%22ratings|5%22&fulltext=Search Ratings template used with #'s]
[[User:Kolano|Kolano]] 20:37, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
 
I guess theres no scripts or wiki bots that can monitor it automatically for us be good if there was.
 
I hope people read the ratings links I put on the main page its the best I could do and also It would be a good idea to update each list page so at the top is a big comment about editing ratings they need to scroll past something like.
 
Put (hash) as I cant put a real one here.
 
(comment)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)
 
Please don't put ratings in this file use the link below
 
Link to Wii Ratings list
 
(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(/comment)
 
I added a test example to the Wii page  that can be rolled out to all the other lists.
 
[[Special:Contributions/122.104.103.221|122.104.103.221]] 20:56, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
 
As mentioned earlier wii lists 505'd is now split into 2 lists now and half the ratings for both Wii lists are screwed up now or haven't been added.
 
Also allot of gamecube games are still inline ratings and not using the template in the game list about 40-50% all games.
 
Its at a critical stage that about 50% of all ratings for the games over both the Wii and Gamecube game lists need to be changed to the template.
[[Special:Contributions/122.104.103.221|122.104.103.221]] 15:42, 20 November 2010 (UTC)


After tests I confirm that all images format have this issue, I've notified this to Mamario. Now we have to wait for a answer, so some covers that I've recently updated will have this problem, please no revert these files. [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] 15:53, 10 December 2010 (CET)
=== Infobox VG thumbnail template ===
* Mamario fixed this. I've notified too of some images that can't be resized, and he is looking for a solution. [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] 13:18, 11 December 2010 (CET)
We don't have a template for thumbnails of Infobox VG, so I think that we can use a 300px rendering for game covers, a 350px rendering for Wii Channels and a 175px rendering for WiiWare games. Take for example [[Photo Channel]], in Infobox VG you need only to put the rendering in a tag: <nowiki>[[File:Photo_Channel.png</nowiki>'''|350px'''<nowiki>]]</nowiki>


*Alrighty everyone, I have figured it out, if your image does not resize then you add another little section at the end <nowiki>[[File:Rocky.jpg|300px</nowiki>'''|Rocky‎''']] or in the middle <nowiki>[[File:Rocky.jpg</nowiki>'''|Rocky‎'''|300px]] just mess around with it and you'll get the image resized. [[User:ThatLuciano|ThatLuciano]] 20:14, 14 February 2011 (CET)
Just add the rendering tag after filename. If you are editing a wiki page that use Infobox VG, change the thumbnail to fit in this template. I will edit this in all of my future commits. [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] 20:25, 20 October 2010 (UTC)


=== Spammers ===
=== Spammers ===
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*Something is wrong since the reCaptcha isn't blocking these bots edition and user creation. We must find another way to block these spammers. [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] 16:07, 27 January 2011 (CET)
*Something is wrong since the reCaptcha isn't blocking these bots edition and user creation. We must find another way to block these spammers. [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] 16:07, 27 January 2011 (CET)
=== DSP-LLE ===
I know this wiki is very game focused, and doesn't focus on stuff like explaining emulator options. But still, some topics, like DSP-LLE, are mentioned throughout the wiki without any explanation whatsoever. So someone sees the option in the configuration list, tries to use it, error. So they search the wiki, and find nothing. They go to the main dolphin page, nothing in the FAQs or support either. If they do google searches it will lead them to the forum, but even then it's not exactly easy to find. Should this wiki have something to explain certain topics, like DSP-LLE? Even if it was just a page with a link to the forums, it could go a long way to helping users figure out how it works. Obviously I am not suggesting we explain every single option available for configuration; that would take far too much effort to do as it changes all the time, and dolphin itself does a great at explaining things usually. But it might be nice to have something on the wiki for those that need it, just to help push them in the right direction. [[User:MaJoR|MaJoR]] 20:11, 08 June 2011 (UTC)
=== Possible fix for GameCube page ===
I've noticed that Mediawiki 1.6 support more templates, and apparently the GameCube list is working OK, even with all templates included. For help, I've too moved all links and references to the obsolete Ratings to the new RatingsGC, to reduce templates in use by GameCube page. [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] 22:33, 7 December 2010 (CET)
*No fix, after mergering htp://dolphin-emu.com and http://dolphin-emulator.com, the server that is hosting this wiki was changed and accepted a few more templates, but the issue still occur [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] 16:07, 27 January 2011 (CET)
=== Wii List at Critical Length ===
It appears the Wii game list has it the critical length where the wiki is no longer able to process the number of templates in it. We either need to split it up as we have the GameCube page or determine an alternate way to address the many templates issue. [[User:Kolano|Kolano]] 17:28, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
I have split into a-m and o-z which will work for now.
Half the titles compatibilities to the template are screwed up in the lists so the lists will need to be edited for that.
[[Special:Contributions/122.104.103.221|122.104.103.221]] 15:30, 20 November 2010 (UTC)


=== Unresizeable Images ===
=== Unresizeable Images ===
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*Alrighty everyone, I have figured it out, if your image does not resize then you add another little section at the end <nowiki>[[File:Rocky.jpg|300px</nowiki>'''|Rocky‎''']] or in the middle <nowiki>[[File:Rocky.jpg</nowiki>'''|Rocky‎'''|300px]] just mess around with it and you'll get the image resized. [[User:ThatLuciano|ThatLuciano]] 20:14, 14 February 2011 (CET)
*Alrighty everyone, I have figured it out, if your image does not resize then you add another little section at the end <nowiki>[[File:Rocky.jpg|300px</nowiki>'''|Rocky‎''']] or in the middle <nowiki>[[File:Rocky.jpg</nowiki>'''|Rocky‎'''|300px]] just mess around with it and you'll get the image resized. [[User:ThatLuciano|ThatLuciano]] 20:14, 14 February 2011 (CET)


=== Incorrect Ratings ===
=== Wii List at Critical Length ===
More and more I'm noticing people incorrectly changing the ratings putting a number directly on the list instead of in the ratings pages just undid 2 of the them from the same person.
It appears the Wii game list has it the critical length where the wiki is no longer able to process the number of templates in it. We either need to split it up as we have the GameCube page or determine an alternate way to address the many templates issue. [[User:Kolano|Kolano]] 17:28, 14 November 2010 (UTC)


We need all users to understand not to change the ratings that way or a way to prevent it as its going to get annoying and harder to change. [[Special:Contributions/122.104.103.221|122.104.103.221]] 20:16, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
I have split into a-m and o-z which will work for now.
----
I think this is generally due to folks being unaware of how to work with the ratings templates. Some suggestions:
*Revise the ratings template to recognize the numbers an provide info on appropriate corrections.
*Revise the rating template so ratings link to the appropriate ratings edit page. I'm guessing this would mean generating separate templates per system.


However, we'll likely still see this (and the similar issue of pages using the rating vs ratings template) even then. Unfortunately the best solution may be to just continue to monitor things. The searches below can help with such...
Half the titles compatibilities to the template are screwed up in the lists so the lists will need to be edited for that.
*[http://www.dolphin-emulator.com/wiki/index.php?title=Special:Search&ns0=1&redirs=1&search=Rating|&limit=100&offset=0 Use of the rating rather than ratings template] (some unrelated results mixed in)
*[http://www.dolphin-emulator.com/wiki/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=%22ratings|0%22+%22ratings|1%22+%22ratings|2%22+%22ratings|3%22+%22ratings|4%22+%22ratings|5%22&fulltext=Search Ratings template used with #'s]
[[User:Kolano|Kolano]] 20:37, 15 August 2010 (UTC)


I guess theres no scripts or wiki bots that can monitor it automatically for us be good if there was.
[[Special:Contributions/122.104.103.221|122.104.103.221]] 15:30, 20 November 2010 (UTC)


I hope people read the ratings links I put on the main page its the best I could do and also It would be a good idea to update each list page so at the top is a big comment about editing ratings they need to scroll past something like.
=== Broken Image Sizing ===
Apparently this issue appeared after site admin updated to Mediawiki 1.6. The current workaround that I've encountered is reuploading the image with resizing problems in PNG format. (I'm not sure if GIF have this bug too) [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] 22:33, 7 December 2010 (CET)


Put (hash) as I cant put a real one here.
After tests I confirm that all images format have this issue, I've notified this to Mamario. Now we have to wait for a answer, so some covers that I've recently updated will have this problem, please no revert these files. [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] 15:53, 10 December 2010 (CET)
* Mamario fixed this. I've notified too of some images that can't be resized, and he is looking for a solution. [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] 13:18, 11 December 2010 (CET)


(comment)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)
*Alrighty everyone, I have figured it out, if your image does not resize then you add another little section at the end <nowiki>[[File:Rocky.jpg|300px</nowiki>'''|Rocky‎''']] or in the middle <nowiki>[[File:Rocky.jpg</nowiki>'''|Rocky‎'''|300px]] just mess around with it and you'll get the image resized. [[User:ThatLuciano|ThatLuciano]] 20:14, 14 February 2011 (CET)


Please don't put ratings in this file use the link below
== 2011 ==


Link to Wii Ratings list
=== Possible fix for GameCube page ===
I've noticed that Mediawiki 1.6 support more templates, and apparently the GameCube list is working OK, even with all templates included. For help, I've too moved all links and references to the obsolete Ratings to the new RatingsGC, to reduce templates in use by GameCube page. [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] 22:33, 7 December 2010 (CET)
*No fix, after mergering htp://dolphin-emu.com and http://dolphin-emulator.com, the server that is hosting this wiki was changed and accepted a few more templates, but the issue still occur [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] 16:07, 27 January 2011 (CET)


(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(hash)(/comment)
=== DSP-LLE ===
 
I know this wiki is very game focused, and doesn't focus on stuff like explaining emulator options. But still, some topics, like DSP-LLE, are mentioned throughout the wiki without any explanation whatsoever. So someone sees the option in the configuration list, tries to use it, error. So they search the wiki, and find nothing. They go to the main dolphin page, nothing in the FAQs or support either. If they do google searches it will lead them to the forum, but even then it's not exactly easy to find. Should this wiki have something to explain certain topics, like DSP-LLE? Even if it was just a page with a link to the forums, it could go a long way to helping users figure out how it works. Obviously I am not suggesting we explain every single option available for configuration; that would take far too much effort to do as it changes all the time, and dolphin itself does a great at explaining things usually. But it might be nice to have something on the wiki for those that need it, just to help push them in the right direction. [[User:MaJoR|MaJoR]] 20:11, 08 June 2011 (UTC)
I added a test example to the Wii page  that can be rolled out to all the other lists.
 
[[Special:Contributions/122.104.103.221|122.104.103.221]] 20:56, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
 
As mentioned earlier wii lists 505'd is now split into 2 lists now and half the ratings for both Wii lists are screwed up now or haven't been added.
 
Also allot of gamecube games are still inline ratings and not using the template in the game list about 40-50% all games.
 
Its at a critical stage that about 50% of all ratings for the games over both the Wii and Gamecube game lists need to be changed to the template.
[[Special:Contributions/122.104.103.221|122.104.103.221]] 15:42, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
 
=== Infobox VG thumbnail template ===
We don't have a template for thumbnails of Infobox VG, so I think that we can use a 300px rendering for game covers, a 350px rendering for Wii Channels and a 175px rendering for WiiWare games. Take for example [[Photo Channel]], in Infobox VG you need only to put the rendering in a tag: <nowiki>[[File:Photo_Channel.png</nowiki>'''|350px'''<nowiki>]]</nowiki>
 
Just add the rendering tag after filename. If you are editing a wiki page that use Infobox VG, change the thumbnail to fit in this template. I will edit this in all of my future commits. [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] 20:25, 20 October 2010 (UTC)


=== Compatibility/Testing Validation ===
=== Compatibility/Testing Validation ===
We seem to have an influx of users who don't pay attention to listed issues when providing test entries or compatibility ratings. Jhonn and I have been rolling back/updating most of these as they occur, but it's becoming a bit annoying. We've tended to leave test entries alone, but there are now a number of "no known glitches" test entries for games that clearly still have issues. Do folks have any suggestions regarding ways to improve the handling of such?
We seem to have an influx of users who don't pay attention to listed issues when providing test entries or compatibility ratings. Jhonn and I have been rolling back/updating most of these as they occur, but it's becoming a bit annoying. We've tended to leave test entries alone, but there are now a number of "no known glitches" test entries for games that clearly still have issues. Do folks have any suggestions regarding ways to improve the handling of such?
[[User:Kolano|Kolano]] 04:48, 30 October 2011 (CET)
[[User:Kolano|Kolano]] 04:48, 30 October 2011 (CET)
== 2012 ==


===Moved to a new server===
===Moved to a new server===
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:::: Thanks Jhonn, now we just need to update the VideoGallery docs to indicate the services availible. I had been noting pages that used alternate video services, but I'm away from home for Thanksgiving so it may be a while before I'd get to accounting for them to use embeds [[User:Kolano|Kolano]] ([[User talk:Kolano|talk]]) 18:48, 22 November 2012 (CET)
:::: Thanks Jhonn, now we just need to update the VideoGallery docs to indicate the services availible. I had been noting pages that used alternate video services, but I'm away from home for Thanksgiving so it may be a while before I'd get to accounting for them to use embeds [[User:Kolano|Kolano]] ([[User talk:Kolano|talk]]) 18:48, 22 November 2012 (CET)
=== Suspicious Users ===
I suspect a spammer is trying to build up some user accounts. These users have odd names that seem randomly generated, and were created without performing any edits:
*Racn42pysi
*Jan5318bwi
*WoodrowWcx
*Boscaposi
*Gaye6z37ge
*Err225deki
*Con67sy5ba
*Jan3jvudju
*Sig96yx8gi
*Joh4hvfuke
*Fra5befxli
*DarleneLfy
*Yacht member1
*Simsmagic
*Mer8qq9ysh
*Wal6291kst
*Civ1994
*Cprs (This ones a bit different than the others, and may be unrelated)
*Teoberpriller98
*Seloy93
*Cukali36
*Caphung49
*Hbryon39
*Filorraine31
*Tplautz19
*Shstoermer22
*Mtamie82
*Mr.Shibby (This ones a bit different than the others, and may be unrelated)
*TopFunny525
*Tohemmings32
*Rkisamore30
*Tahuna16
*Qusills78
*BrandenTd (This ones a bit different than the others, and may be unrelated)
*Xiao21
*Sowestrum37
*Duflorentino31
Which covers the suspicious ones over the last 100 user registrations, though there are many more of these. I'm reluctant to perform preemptive blocks, but have a feeling we'll still be cleaning up after spammers for some time if we don't.[[User:Kolano|Kolano]] ([[User talk:Kolano|talk]]) 08:56, 24 November 2012 (CET)
It is probably someone failing to use the SEO spambot tools properly, and not a nefarious plot for later. After all, I've never seen a spambot come back later, they have always ''always'' joined then immediately spammed. Here, you should [http://www.kernelmag.com/features/report/3191/revealed-the-grubby-world-of-comment-spam/ read this article], it gives a ton of information on the kind of spam we get here at the wiki. - [[User:MaJoR|MaJoR]] ([[User talk:MaJoR|talk]]) 12:04, 4 December 2012 (CET)
Solved by the change to question based captchas. Fixed by Delroth in late December of 2012. No new suspicious users or spammers are being made, but the old ones remain.


=== Infobox Automation ===
=== Infobox Automation ===
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Really, we'd need scripts to do this effectively, and that means figuring out the scripting API, getting delroth's and parlane's help, and alllll that. Without scripts, that means making thousands of pages manually, and that would take obscene amounts of time, even if they are blanks (something I think is quite dumb). So yea, making that PAGESINCAT thing display the right number is a absolute gigantic mess, so I say let's just avoid the problem entirely and remove the PAGESINCAT bit from all the pages. I don't think anyone is going to object to me saving us obscene amounts of work, so I'm going to just remove it. But in case anyone has alternatives, and because the tiny edit summary blank couldn't fit the explanation, I'm putting it here. - [[User:MaJoR|MaJoR]] ([[User talk:MaJoR|talk]]) 12:00, 4 December 2012 (CET)
Really, we'd need scripts to do this effectively, and that means figuring out the scripting API, getting delroth's and parlane's help, and alllll that. Without scripts, that means making thousands of pages manually, and that would take obscene amounts of time, even if they are blanks (something I think is quite dumb). So yea, making that PAGESINCAT thing display the right number is a absolute gigantic mess, so I say let's just avoid the problem entirely and remove the PAGESINCAT bit from all the pages. I don't think anyone is going to object to me saving us obscene amounts of work, so I'm going to just remove it. But in case anyone has alternatives, and because the tiny edit summary blank couldn't fit the explanation, I'm putting it here. - [[User:MaJoR|MaJoR]] ([[User talk:MaJoR|talk]]) 12:00, 4 December 2012 (CET)


=== Suspicious Users ===
== 2013 ==
I suspect a spammer is trying to build up some user accounts. These users have odd names that seem randomly generated, and were created without performing any edits:
 
*Racn42pysi
=== Bots/Scripts ===
*Jan5318bwi
 
*WoodrowWcx
Now that we actually have access to the wiki on a basic level, I'm been investigating how to automate tasks here around the wiki. Stuff like updating the list of games, manipulating categories, on and on could be done wiki-wide with a script. We could potentially even kill spambots with it (or at least flag them to make clean up easier). There are all kinds of things we could do. Now obviously, I'm an artist, not a programmer, so my contributions to this are limited. But I can learn things quickly. Anyway, I think this could go a long way to help us save a ton of time in large scale modifications, and let us do things like updating game lists more often. For reference, here are some bots and scripts I found while looking around: [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Bots/Status|Bot Status]] - [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:List of bots by number of edits|Bot list sorted by edits]] - [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:WikiProject User scripts/Scripts|User Scripts List]] - [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:WikiProject User scripts/Tutorial|User Scripts Tutorial]].
*Boscaposi
 
*Gaye6z37ge
Delroth and the devs brought this up, cause well, they are too lazy to do manual edits :P. Our needs would probably be better served by scripts than bots, but, having stuff done automatically might be nice sometimes. So, what do you guys think? Do you want bots and scripts, and if so, what would you want them for? - [[User:MaJoR|MaJoR]] ([[User talk:MaJoR|talk]]) 14:51, 14 December 2012 (CET)
*Err225deki
 
*Con67sy5ba
Talking about bots, I wrote a simple script to update the [[Template:CurrentGitRevision]] page automatically when a commit is pushed to the Git repository. That should be one less thing to worry about. [[User:Delroth|delroth]] ([[User talk:Delroth|talk]]) 03:35, 5 January 2013 (CET)
*Jan3jvudju
 
*Sig96yx8gi
My grocery list of scripts:
*Joh4hvfuke
*System to allow the revision template to understand GIT codes, restoring it's functionality from before the GIT migration
*Fra5befxli
*Script to collected and create GameIDs and direct them to relevant pages
*DarleneLfy
I asked Delroth about the revision template recently. He said he could get it working with the new site in no time, but since that would cover only a tiny fraction of revisions, I told him to wait till he can put in a complete solution that ties to google code. To be honest I'd prefer the main site just be updated to go back all the way but eh, that isn't in their plans. - [[User:MaJoR|MaJoR]] ([[User talk:MaJoR|talk]]) 03:25, 7 January 2013 (CET)
*Yacht member1
 
*Simsmagic
I have a list of about 300 gameids which should redirect to existing Wiki pages. Could someone review http://codepad.org/RKdGIvUF and tell me if it's ok to mass-create these pages? [[User:Delroth|delroth]] ([[User talk:Delroth|talk]]) 19:54, 2 February 2013 (CET)
*Mer8qq9ysh
 
*Wal6291kst
Talked with him about it in the channel. Everything either checks out or will create a double redirect. So, he'll upload it, and then we'll check the double redirects to fix any issues. Simple enough. - [[User:MaJoR|MaJoR]] ([[User talk:MaJoR|talk]]) 14:20, 3 February 2013 (CET)
*Civ1994
 
*Cprs (This ones a bit different than the others, and may be unrelated)
: I should actually be able to check for double redirects pretty easily. The bot will do it automatically. [[User:Delroth|delroth]] ([[User talk:Delroth|talk]]) 15:49, 3 February 2013 (CET)
*Teoberpriller98
 
*Seloy93
:: Done! I also fixed all the other double redirects at the same time. [[User:Delroth|delroth]] ([[User talk:Delroth|talk]]) 07:46, 4 February 2013 (CET)
*Cukali36
 
*Caphung49
I also have some cron scripts listing stuff to do on the Wiki: for example:
*Hbryon39
* http://wiki.dolphin-emu.org/missing-gameid.txt GameIDs missing a redirection, from the "Go to Wiki" menu in the emulator
*Filorraine31
**sXAP52, r8pj01, suke01:Capitalization on these ones is odd, we have an entries with appropriate caps, not clear what's with the lowercase letters
*Tplautz19
**£×Uº²�, ŽÔç_ìÂ, èl9/C, +¾‹Ešn,#•Wõ�d:These have various odd characters.
*Shstoermer22
**GCOPDV, GBLPGL: The first 4 chars of these align with "GCOP52: Call of Duty: Finest Hour" and "GBLP52: Bloody Roar: Primal Fury" but I'm not clear they are the same.
*Mtamie82
**GGCOSD: GCOS GC MultiGame DVD), GCOPDV:GCOS MultiGame DVD, MRRP01: New Super Mario Bros. Wii Retro Remix, GBLPGL:Xeno GC Homebrew Boot: These are various IDs associated with homemade multi-boots, or other homemade images. Not clear we should track these.
*Mr.Shibby (This ones a bit different than the others, and may be unrelated)
**Most other residual ones I'm having trouble aligning to a known game title, they don't seem to show up on GameTDB.
*TopFunny525
* http://wiki.dolphin-emu.org/missing-redirs.txt All game pages which don't have a 6 chars GameID redirecting to that page
*Tohemmings32
**Peach's_Castle: Seems to have the invalid ID "00"
*Rkisamore30
**System_Menu: GameID for system menu wads is blank
*Tahuna16
**Toy Wars:These don't have disk images and are just distributed as resources /w DOL files
*Qusills78
**Call_of_Duty:_Black_Ops/sandbox_(Wii): Sandbox pages should generally be isolated, there's no gameid for the sandbox
*BrandenTd (This ones a bit different than the others, and may be unrelated)
**MaxPlay_Classic_Games_Volume_1: This game is unlicensed and steals a gameID from other titles typically "NHL HITZ 20-02: GNHE5d"
*Xiao21
**Channels and some WiiWare titles seem to use 4 character IDs, and aren't filtered from the 6 char list. Will need to avoid filtering the few non-Channel games, (i.e. History Channel ??? and Pokemon Channel). Dolphin seems to postfix these with "01", but was unclear how we want to handle them here.
*Sowestrum37
::Kolano, I talked with Delroth about the 4char GameIDs. Both the 4 and 6 character IDs are correct. The last two characters in a 6 character GameID is the publisher code. For WiiWare, Wii Channels, and Virtual Console games, Nintendo decided to detach the publisher code. Plus, the code is based on platform, not publisher. 01 NES, SNES, and N64 VC games, for example. The Dolphin devs decided to go for uniformity, and put the publisher code back in. So to Dolphin the GameID includes it, even though officially the GameID according to Nintendo does not. But it is official information from nintendo. - [[User:MaJoR|MaJoR]] ([[User talk:MaJoR|talk]]) 11:41, 7 February 2013 (CET)
*Duflorentino31
:::Per that I guess we should have entries for both. There are likely some double redirects from when I first noticed this to clean-up, and the scripts here may need to be updated to also track the 4 char IDs.
* http://wiki.dolphin-emu.org/compat.txt All values found in ratings pages (should have only 0/1/2/3/4/5 ideally)
* http://wiki.dolphin-emu.org/unknown.txt Games with rating 0 (unknown)
* http://wiki.dolphin-emu.org/review.txt Games with rating 1/2/3 not updated for 4 months (listed because some of these games might be fixed now)
 
Tell me if you need more. [[User:Delroth|delroth]] ([[User talk:Delroth|talk]]) 23:06, 3 February 2013 (CET)
 
Another thing I will automate: editing infoboxes to add the link to the forum thread when a forum thread exists. Trivial to do with access to the forum database, just needs some infobox template parsing... It's on my TODO for tomorrow. [[User:Delroth|delroth]] ([[User talk:Delroth|talk]]) 07:46, 4 February 2013 (CET)
 
One thing I'd like to get a bot/script to perform would be mass search and replaces. For instance, we noticed a frequent mis-capitalization of Single-player as Single-Player. It's easy enough to search and find most instances of this, but actually editing/saving each page is tedious.[[User:Kolano|Kolano]] ([[User talk:Kolano|talk]]) 07:17, 7 February 2013 (CET)
 
:I second this. A find and replace script would be GREAT. - [[User:MaJoR|MaJoR]] ([[User talk:MaJoR|talk]]) 09:55, 7 February 2013 (CET)
 
::It's already in PyWikipediaBot (the framework I'm using). Just tell me what mass replaces you want to do and I'll run the bot. [[User:Delroth|delroth]] ([[User talk:Delroth|talk]]) 14:44, 7 February 2013 (CET)
:::*Single-Player > Single-player
:::*Wiimote, wiimote > Wii Remote
::::Only in infoboxes or in the whole page text? Whole page text would be easier, but I can do both without too much of a problem. [[User:Delroth|delroth]] ([[User talk:Delroth|talk]]) 11:57, 8 February 2013 (CET)
:::::Personally I'd prefer you keep it to just infoboxes. There are times where I use Wiimote, Wii Remote, etc etc as variation in pages so it doesn't sound dull. - [[User:MaJoR|MaJoR]] ([[User talk:MaJoR|talk]]) 14:13, 8 February 2013 (CET)
::::::Wiimote should already be corrected in all infoboxes. Wiimote is not the appropriate name for the device though, so I'd personally prefer it be replaced everywhere. Though I don't really want to fight about it. The Single-player capitalization fix can be applied everywhere, but be careful about the capitalization (i.e. we don't want to capitalize lowercase single-player outside of infoboxes, but we would if it appears in an infobox. "Single-Player" to "Single-player" should be a safe global replacement though, if capitalization is respected).
:::::::Actually, Wiimote is used in dolphin for various settings, like Alternate Wiimote Timings. Wiimote should definitely NOT be replaced everywhere. - [[User:MaJoR|MaJoR]] ([[User talk:MaJoR|talk]]) 04:18, 10 February 2013 (CET)
:::::::That may be the case, but that just means Dolphin devs have failed to use the appropriate term for the device. It does unfortunately complicate the replacement though.
 
Noticed Major adding redirects to account for capitalization differences. Something to automate the creation of such might be nice, though I'm guessing there may be easier ways to account for such. [[User:Kolano|Kolano]] ([[User talk:Kolano|talk]]) 02:58, 19 February 2013 (CET)
 
I'd also like a script that could match instances of the {{issue}} template on the used on the Wiki to the open issues on Google code. So we could identify closed issues for alignment with issue reporting on the Wiki, and provide consolidated reporting for open issues. [[User:Kolano|Kolano]] ([[User talk:Kolano|talk]]) 20:29, 25 February 2013 (CET)
 
=== Collapsed Navigation Templates ===
Currently the navigation template defaults to a collapsed state. I'm a bit confused by such, since that defeats their purpose of providing clear linkages to related series titles. Most of the navigation templates only take up a line or two of the display anyway, so I'm also not clear we're gaining a lot by having the collapse. Can we perhaps redesign the template to:
*Purge the title row:
**Purge the hide/show link or reposition it and default to show
***If the hide/show functionality is preserved, I'd at least like to see the hide/show setting be set to a cookie, so it would apply across the navigation templates, rather than just the one on the current page.
**Purge the "view" link, since I'm not clear it serves much purpose
**Reposition the edit/discuss links to the upper-right corner (so they generally won't overlap/offset links, when appearing on the same line).
 
Please let me know your thoughts.
[[User:Kolano|Kolano]] ([[User talk:Kolano|talk]]) 19:09, 10 March 2013 (CET)
 
I agree, the navigation should be shown by default. Having it collasped is just a hold over from wikipedia. But for us, it's always very small, and it's very handy to have. So I think it should be shown. As for your ideas... I like the title row, so I don't want to just remove it. As for the "view" link, it provides an easy link to the template itself, so it has some use. As for the rest... I don't really care. *shrug* - [[User:MaJoR|MaJoR]] ([[User talk:MaJoR|talk]]) 19:46, 10 March 2013 (CET)
: Ok, did some tweaks: all navigation templates are expanded by default and "view" link was removed. I agree with MaJor regarding to the title row, it should stay as is. I won't implement a cookie to store "hide/show" preference because it would be a lot of work for something that shouldn't be cared about. And since the code used to implement the functionality of the hide/show buttons are shared by a lot of templates, I can't remove it from navbar without breaking the show/hide functionality of Test Entries and the "contents" chart. Also, moving the talk and edit links to the upper-right corner caused a lot of issues with the positioning of show/hide button, so I'm just leaving it in the default position. - [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] ([[User talk:Jhonn|talk]])
 
:View link is gone, but templates still remain collapsed by default, refer: [[Super Monkey Ball]]. [[User:Kolano|Kolano]] ([[User talk:Kolano|talk]]) 16:15, 11 March 2013 (CET)
:: Fixed for real now - [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] ([[User talk:Jhonn|talk]])
 
=== Importing game banners on the Wiki ===
 
As you may have seen on the forums, I've been crowdsourcing the collect of game banner images (the 96x32 images used in the Dolphin game list). These images should probably be hosted somewhere on the wiki like the covers, but I don't know how you want to handle that. Could someone look into adding banners for a few games? I will then use a bot to import everything.
 
When the import will be done I will be able to add the banners to the new Dolphin website compatibility list: http://dolphin-emu.org/compat/ :) [[User:Delroth|delroth]] ([[User talk:Delroth|talk]]) 05:22, 5 February 2013 (CET)
 
: A rough idea would be using the game ID as filename (like "G8ME01.png") and including the ID somewhere (like as an hidden parameter in Infobox VG). Banners maybe different based on release (NA/EU/JP), so, I think we should have a preference, like NA first, then EU, then JP. The 4th digit in the game ID reveal this (E for NA, P for EU and J for JP). Well, what I'm trying to say is: if the game has been released in all territories, use NA banner. If it was released only in Europe, use EU banner. And, if released only in japan, use JP banner.
 
: Also, adding all banner images in a category would be nice, like [Category:Banner images]. Well, I'll try to exemplify this in a sandbox... [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] ([[User talk:Jhonn|talk]])


Which covers the suspicious ones over the last 100 user registrations, though there are many more of these. I'm reluctant to perform preemptive blocks, but have a feeling we'll still be cleaning up after spammers for some time if we don't.[[User:Kolano|Kolano]] ([[User talk:Kolano|talk]]) 08:56, 24 November 2012 (CET)
:I've thought about putting the banners in the infobox, but I haven't come up with a method that is actually useful. Let me explain. Our brains respond to visual stimuli far better than text. That's why a collection of icons on the desktop is better than a big list of words. Our brains are trained for this stuff. So, in the list inside the dolphin emulator, the job of the banners is to give a visual reference of the game, to exploit our how brains work and help us find stuff faster. On the wiki pages though, cover art already does that, and far better than the tiny banners. Banners on game pages would be kind of redundant. But we could use them in the same way that dolphin does... Banners would be pretty awesome in compatibility lists. Imagine the wii article with banners in it. It would give that quick visual reference that the lists need. I think it would be great there. - [[User:MaJoR|MaJoR]] ([[User talk:MaJoR|talk]]) 18:34, 6 February 2013 (CET)
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It is probably someone failing to use the SEO spambot tools properly, and not a nefarious plot for later. After all, I've never seen a spambot come back later, they have always ''always'' joined then immediately spammed. Here, you should [http://www.kernelmag.com/features/report/3191/revealed-the-grubby-world-of-comment-spam/ read this article], it gives a ton of information on the kind of spam we get here at the wiki. - [[User:MaJoR|MaJoR]] ([[User talk:MaJoR|talk]]) 12:04, 4 December 2012 (CET)
Actually the banners wouldn't show up in the infobox with the covers, I proposed having Game ID as a hidden parameter thinking in easily getting this ID for use in other template, but this is completely out of question now (after some tests I found that there isn't any way of getting a parameter from infobox VG template in another template). So, my initial idea now is:
* Have the Game ID as file name (like G8ME01.png), and add all banner images in a category (Category:Banner images)
* Prefer NA banners, then EU banners, then JP banners
* Add the banners in the main lists too ([[GameCube]], [[Wii]], etc.) -- Something like delroth is doing for the main site
Then, delroth could hotlink the banner images from wiki, this way we could share only one copy of the banner in the main site and in the wiki aswell. [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] ([[User talk:Jhonn|talk]])


Solved by the change to question based captchas. Fixed by Delroth in late December of 2012. No new suspicious users or spammers are being made, but the old ones remain.
A user had started to gather banners here previously. The banners from his minor effort to do so are categorized as "Title images" and can be found. See them here, http://wiki.dolphin-emu.org/index.php?title=Category:Title_images. I've added John's recent upload to that category.
: "Banner images" seems a more accurate category. We can move them to the new category, as we have only a few images uploaded... - [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] ([[User talk:Jhonn|talk]])
My feedback here would be:
*We'll need to decide if we want all the banner images or not, in some cases there may be 5 or 6 of them per game disc. Since we may be likely to only use one image I'm not clear it makes sense to capture them all.
*If we wanted to use these on game pages I'd suggest they be tied into the "Release" section, where it may make sense to capture a title image per region.
:: Tried in a sandbox and the infobox got somewhat "ugly" (at least in my opinion). If we're going to use the banner in infobox, putting only one banner image in "see also" section (before the links) seem better. - [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] ([[User talk:Jhonn|talk]])
*Judging from our current banners, the images seem a bit overly compressed (even though we've re-saved them as PNG to avoid compounding artifacts). Likely not a big deal, but we should try to make sure to avoid compressing them further and increasing artifacts.
:: Well, from what I've seen, all banner images delroth got with "bannerget" were extracted directly from the Dolphin's cache file, so, it's compressed only one time. - [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] ([[User talk:Jhonn|talk]])
*Though I would like to see them on the game list pages, adding 600+ image loads to the page may have a significant impact on performance/load times. The list pages are already fairly slow today (I'm guessing from the many ratings loads), so we should be careful. [[User:Kolano|Kolano]] ([[User talk:Kolano|talk]]) 21:21, 6 February 2013 (CET)
:: Yep, this is true... Completely forgot the loading times when I suggested this - [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] ([[User talk:Jhonn|talk]])
::: There might be a way to get this to be fast with a custom MediaWiki extension and some CSS sprites usage (basically, only one large image would be loaded for each list page). I could learn how to do that if you think it would be a nice addition to the compatibility lists. [[User:Delroth|delroth]] ([[User talk:Delroth|talk]]) 00:52, 7 February 2013 (CET)
::::The list table is rendered through MediaWiki markup, I'm unsure if we can mess CSS sprites with MediaWiki formatting without major issues. However, if this can be done without loading issues, the main list is the best way for having the banner images (better than in infobox VG) - [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] ([[User talk:Jhonn|talk]])
:This is a good point... Dialup user here so, a giant image would SUCK for me. Lots of smaller images are easier to cache. But a thousand banners on the wii page would suck no matter what for me. - [[User:MaJoR|MaJoR]] ([[User talk:MaJoR|talk]]) 04:50, 7 February 2013 (CET)
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