Talk:Ripping Games: Difference between revisions

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::::Honestly I prefer to break up the guides to be as specific as possible. For example, if Ripping Games includes all ripping, then it would have to swallow [[DSP LLE]] since it has ripping DSP roms in it, yet DSP LLE has lots of things that aren't related to dumping in it and it has the benefit of being easily linked to by pages. I would much prefer it if a new guide is made just for ripping SD cards since it is much easier to link and interconnect things on the wiki if they are separate, and because it will allow the ripping sd cards to go to places that are unrelated to ripping as required without going "off topic". - [[User:MaJoR|MaJoR]] ([[User talk:MaJoR|talk]]) 03:02, 3 May 2015 (CEST)
::::Honestly I prefer to break up the guides to be as specific as possible. For example, if Ripping Games includes all ripping, then it would have to swallow [[DSP LLE]] since it has ripping DSP roms in it, yet DSP LLE has lots of things that aren't related to dumping in it and it has the benefit of being easily linked to by pages. I would much prefer it if a new guide is made just for ripping SD cards since it is much easier to link and interconnect things on the wiki if they are separate, and because it will allow the ripping sd cards to go to places that are unrelated to ripping as required without going "off topic". - [[User:MaJoR|MaJoR]] ([[User talk:MaJoR|talk]]) 03:02, 3 May 2015 (CEST)
:::::Further looking into the Wiki, the guides are not very well organized and aren't easily accessible. There is the [[Help:Contents]] section, but that's isn't anywhere on the homepage as far as I can tell. I think a [[Help:Guides]] section could be a good idea (put the link in the [[Help:Contents]]) and maybe overhaul the front page for better organization. ''Not sure where to start?'', I see primary guides to setup first time usage of Dolphin and Wiki help. I think a middle bullet point would be great (for secondary extended usage), which would fit the future [[Virtual GameCube Memory Card Guide]], non-existant [[Virtual Wii Internal Storage Guide]] (for data found in "''%userprofile%\Documents\Dolphin Emulator\Wii\title''" mainly), and [[Virtual SD Card Guide]]. Those guides could include a real data (save/channel) dumping section by using [http://wiibrew.org/wiki/SaveGame_Manager_GX SaveGame Manager GX] (for unmovable and uncopyable saves, like [[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]) and the Wii's built-in save and channel manager, as I found out that the data created by both those methods for exporting that data can be used by Dolphin directly. --[[User:Wildgoosespeeder|Wildgoosespeeder]] ([[User talk:Wildgoosespeeder|talk]]) 02:43, 4 May 2015 (CEST)
:::::Further looking into the Wiki, the guides are not very well organized and aren't easily accessible. There is the [[Help:Contents]] section, but that's isn't anywhere on the homepage as far as I can tell. I think a [[Help:Guides]] section could be a good idea (put the link in the [[Help:Contents]]) and maybe overhaul the front page for better organization. ''Not sure where to start?'', I see primary guides to setup first time usage of Dolphin and Wiki help. I think a middle bullet point would be great (for secondary extended usage), which would fit the future [[Virtual GameCube Memory Card Guide]], non-existant [[Virtual Wii Internal Storage Guide]] (for data found in "''%userprofile%\Documents\Dolphin Emulator\Wii\title''" mainly), and [[Virtual SD Card Guide]]. Those guides could include a real data (save/channel) dumping section by using [http://wiibrew.org/wiki/SaveGame_Manager_GX SaveGame Manager GX] (for unmovable and uncopyable saves, like [[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]) and the Wii's built-in save and channel manager, as I found out that the data created by both those methods for exporting that data can be used by Dolphin directly. --[[User:Wildgoosespeeder|Wildgoosespeeder]] ([[User talk:Wildgoosespeeder|talk]]) 02:43, 4 May 2015 (CEST)
:::::: I definitely like the idea of improving our access to guides! Important ones are already on the mainpage, but it can't show every guide (it's designed for typical problems most users will face, not technical elaborate things), so having a better way to get to help here on the wiki would be very beneficial! I'm not really sure of the best method for that though, which is kind of why it has stayed as it is... Btw, we could take and add a "more" button to the guides section on the mainsite that links to the wiki. ...frankly I don't know why we didn't do that before now, linking to Help:Contents. -shrug- As for where to put guides, I disagree with you there. Help:Contents has the [[Virtual SD Card Guide]], the [[NAND Usage Guide]] and the [[Wii Network Guide]], so it's not like it's just for casual users; it goes into some pretty deep things! It could be organized into "easy" and "advanced" guides, but the mainpage has the guides page already which is for "easy" guides for things most users will face. I think having the guides here on the wiki involve everything is the best course of action. I'm certainly open to better organization ideas though. - [[User:MaJoR|MaJoR]] ([[User talk:MaJoR|talk]]) 07:00, 4 May 2015 (CEST)