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::::::::::What about that PC from the year of 3,000? Just kidding! I read somewhere that shader caching will reset every time there a new GPU driver installed. It's still PC dependent in some sense, no? I figured out why using "Excellent" in compatibility rating system feels funny to me. Dolphin is never perfect, that's certainly a given. When it comes to "Compatibility rating"? It just asks if a game works fine on Dolphin, so if there's a crash, glitch, or such thing that disrupts player's gameplay progress, rate it. "Excellent" is probably far more appropriate term when it comes to "Accuracy rating" or so what we'd call it. I actually don't consider the accuracy flaw a "problem worthy" if it doesn't disrupt gameplay progress at all (or catching their attention in x1 native IR). Unless I'm not understanding you correctly, does the one pixel high jittering still happening in x1 native IR? Any subtle bugs only visible with IR higher than x1 are not the real emulation problem. People can still provide patch for it in the Enhancements section. [[Tales of Symphonia#Reduce Double Image]] is one good example. [[User:Lucario|Lucario]] ([[User talk:Lucario|talk]]) 01:07, 5 December 2015 (CET)
::::::::::What about that PC from the year of 3,000? Just kidding! I read somewhere that shader caching will reset every time there a new GPU driver installed. It's still PC dependent in some sense, no? I figured out why using "Excellent" in compatibility rating system feels funny to me. Dolphin is never perfect, that's certainly a given. When it comes to "Compatibility rating"? It just asks if a game works fine on Dolphin, so if there's a crash, glitch, or such thing that disrupts player's gameplay progress, rate it. "Excellent" is probably far more appropriate term when it comes to "Accuracy rating" or so what we'd call it. I actually don't consider the accuracy flaw a "problem worthy" if it doesn't disrupt gameplay progress at all (or catching their attention in x1 native IR). Unless I'm not understanding you correctly, does the one pixel high jittering still happening in x1 native IR? Any subtle bugs only visible with IR higher than x1 are not the real emulation problem. People can still provide patch for it in the Enhancements section. [[Tales of Symphonia#Reduce Double Image]] is one good example. [[User:Lucario|Lucario]] ([[User talk:Lucario|talk]]) 01:07, 5 December 2015 (CET)
::::::::::: "When it comes to "Compatibility rating"? It just asks if a game works fine on Dolphin, so if there's a crash, glitch, or such thing that disrupts player's gameplay progress, rate it." By that definition, once a game is completable, it is "perfect". That's ridiculous, and not what '''anyone''' expects by the definition of perfect. The plain common-sense interpretation of perfect compatibility is '''no problems at all ever under any circumstances period'''. That you can play this game and never encounter a bug whatsoever. I absolutely do not think that the name "compatibility rating" vs. "accuracy rating" influences the definition of the word "Perfect". Not to mention we are using it as an accuracy rating and a compatibility rating in one measure. Anyway, I'm not going to talk about the details of these bugs or try to justify these bugs to you, but if you actually thought Dolphin was emulating perfectly, you need to move past that. It does not, and never has, and any dev would tell you that. There are fundamental problems with how Dolphin emulates the GC/Wii on PCs that cannot just be worked around. There is absolutely no game that qualifies as perfect.
Anyway, this conversation is going around in circles, so I'm going to push it toward a conclusion. My point is simple: Dolphin can never be perfect! And yet we are ignoring global problems and unknown bugs to give games the immutable "perfect" rating. By changing from Perfect to Excellent, and do no other change to our ratings template, we are making the wording used in the compatibility rating better match how we are using it! And that's it! We'll actually be able to tell someone that a game is excellent without '''lying''' to them. That is what bothers me, and why I want to make the change. - [[User:MaJoR|MaJoR]] ([[User talk:MaJoR|talk]]) 09:48, 5 December 2015 (CET) 


One other area to remember in this renaming is the 5 star {{tl|VersionCompatibilityVersion}} templates. [[User:Kolano|Kolano]] ([[User talk:Kolano|talk]]) 23:20, 2 December 2015 (CET)
One other area to remember in this renaming is the 5 star {{tl|VersionCompatibilityVersion}} templates. [[User:Kolano|Kolano]] ([[User talk:Kolano|talk]]) 23:20, 2 December 2015 (CET)