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Whoa, whoa there! Don't just push new features that will change a huge number of pages directly into templates being used everywhere, without providing a sandbox and test example first (and hearing other thoughts first). That's what you just did with {{tl|Issue}} and although it's a fairly simple change, it have some fundamental flaws: first, sometimes an issue relates to a specific problem that occur with many games (e.g. zfreeze) and while a new build may fix the issue in a game, others may still have the problem so the issue still remain open, and second because the category you created is redundant, you're essentially flagging the same game pages that already are categorized in [[:Category:Pages with fixed problems]] since you're adding that fixed tag to all problems that have links to issues and are crossed but they already are flagged by {{tl|s}}{{tl|/s}}. I'm reverting your changes now. - [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] ([[User talk:Jhonn|talk]])
Whoa, whoa there! Don't just push new features that will change a huge number of pages directly into templates being used everywhere, without providing a sandbox and test example first (and hearing other thoughts first). That's what you just did with {{tl|Issue}} and although it's a fairly simple change, it have some fundamental flaws: first, sometimes an issue relates to a specific problem that occur with many games (e.g. zfreeze) and while a new build may fix the issue in a game, others may still have the problem so the issue still remain open, and second because the category you created is redundant, you're essentially flagging the same game pages that already are categorized in [[:Category:Pages with fixed problems]] since you're adding that fixed tag to all problems that have links to issues and are crossed but they already are flagged by {{tl|s}}{{tl|/s}}. I'm reverting your changes now. - [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] ([[User talk:Jhonn|talk]])
:How could you... This new category can help us find the old problem that should've been crossed out with {{tl|s}}{{tl|/s}} if the issue has already been fixed. "fixed" doesn't have to mean that the issue is actually fixed as seen in bug tracker, it just means that ''this'' issue is "no longer the case" for ''that'' game. Again, it was supposed to find and update the old problems that's since been fixed. The fixed and active problem categories are not same. [[User:Lucario|Lucario]] ([[User talk:Lucario|talk]]) 02:23, 11 November 2015 (CET)
:How could you... This new category can help us find the old problem that should've been crossed out with {{tl|s}}{{tl|/s}} if the issue has already been fixed. "fixed" doesn't have to mean that the issue is actually fixed as seen in bug tracker, it just means that ''this'' issue is "no longer the case" for ''that'' game. Again, it was supposed to find and update the old problems that's since been fixed. The fixed and active problem categories are not same. [[User:Lucario|Lucario]] ([[User talk:Lucario|talk]]) 02:23, 11 November 2015 (CET)
:: The point is, you '''should not''' jump straight to a template currently used in a lot of pages and just throw something new at it (that'll change how the template works). You '''discuss''' it first, show a sandbox with the concept, then, if you got positive '''consensus''', you go implementing it, I'm just sick of you and Wildgoosespeeder‎ failing to properly isolate whatever concepts you're proposing in the sandboxes instead of messing with templates and pages already in use by the wiki just to show how that concept will look. Not to mention also that your new wanted category could be instantly achieved with a simple snippet in {{tl|issue}} to check if the page that's including it already isn't a member of [[:Category:Pages with fixed problems]] and if not, tag it with the [[:Category:Pages with active problems]] instead of go spreading |fixed everywhere on the wiki (and even then the concept you proposed would still be somewhat wrong since a problem not necessarily include a link to an issue and so the proposed category would have missing pages). - [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] ([[User talk:Jhonn|talk]])