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Another thing I will automate: editing infoboxes to add the link to the forum thread when a forum thread exists. Trivial to do with access to the forum database, just needs some infobox template parsing... It's on my TODO for tomorrow. [[User:Delroth|delroth]] ([[User talk:Delroth|talk]]) 07:46, 4 February 2013 (CET)
Another thing I will automate: editing infoboxes to add the link to the forum thread when a forum thread exists. Trivial to do with access to the forum database, just needs some infobox template parsing... It's on my TODO for tomorrow. [[User:Delroth|delroth]] ([[User talk:Delroth|talk]]) 07:46, 4 February 2013 (CET)
=== Importing game banners on the Wiki ===
As you may have seen on the forums, I've been crowdsourcing the collect of game banner images (the 96x32 images used in the Dolphin game list). These images should probably be hosted somewhere on the wiki like the covers, but I don't know how you want to handle that. Could someone look into adding banners for a few games? I will then use a bot to import everything.
When the import will be done I will be able to add the banners to the new Dolphin website compatibility list: http://dolphin-emu.org/compat/ :) [[User:Delroth|delroth]] ([[User talk:Delroth|talk]]) 05:22, 5 February 2013 (CET)
: A rough idea would be using the game ID as filename (like "G8ME01.png") and including the ID somewhere (like as an hidden parameter in Infobox VG). Banners maybe different based on release (NA/EU/JP), so, I think we should have a preference, like NA first, then EU, then JP. The 4th digit in the game ID reveal this (E for NA, P for EU and J for JP). Well, what I'm trying to say is: if the game has been released in all territories, use NA banner. If it was released only in Europe, use EU banner. And, if released only in japan, use JP banner.
: Also, adding all banner images in a category would be nice, like [Category:Banner images]. Well, I'll try to exemplify this in a sandbox... [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] ([[User talk:Jhonn|talk]])
:I've thought about putting the banners in the infobox, but I haven't come up with a method that is actually useful. Let me explain. Our brains respond to visual stimuli far better than text. That's why a collection of icons on the desktop is better than a big list of words. Our brains are trained for this stuff. So, in the list inside the dolphin emulator, the job of the banners is to give a visual reference of the game, to exploit our how brains work and help us find stuff faster. On the wiki pages though, cover art already does that, and far better than the tiny banners. Banners on game pages would be kind of redundant. But we could use them in the same way that dolphin does... Banners would be pretty awesome in compatibility lists. Imagine the wii article with banners in it. It would give that quick visual reference that the lists need. I think it would be great there. - [[User:MaJoR|MaJoR]] ([[User talk:MaJoR|talk]]) 18:34, 6 February 2013 (CET)
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Actually the banners wouldn't show up in the infobox with the covers, I proposed having Game ID as a hidden parameter thinking in easily getting this ID for use in other template, but this is completely out of question now (after some tests I found that there isn't any way of getting a parameter from infobox VG template in another template). So, my initial idea now is:
* Have the Game ID as file name (like G8ME01.png), and add all banner images in a category (Category:Banner images)
* Prefer NA banners, then EU banners, then JP banners
* Add the banners in the main lists too ([[GameCube]], [[Wii]], etc.) -- Something like delroth is doing for the main site
Then, delroth could hotlink the banner images from wiki, this way we could share only one copy of the banner in the main site and in the wiki aswell. [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] ([[User talk:Jhonn|talk]])
A user had started to gather banners here previously. The banners from his minor effort to do so are categorized as "Title images" and can be found. See them here, http://wiki.dolphin-emu.org/index.php?title=Category:Title_images. I've added John's recent upload to that category.
: "Banner images" seems a more accurate category. We can move them to the new category, as we have only a few images uploaded... - [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] ([[User talk:Jhonn|talk]])
My feedback here would be:
*We'll need to decide if we want all the banner images or not, in some cases there may be 5 or 6 of them per game disc. Since we may be likely to only use one image I'm not clear it makes sense to capture them all.
*If we wanted to use these on game pages I'd suggest they be tied into the "Release" section, where it may make sense to capture a title image per region.
:: Tried in a sandbox and the infobox got somewhat "ugly" (at least in my opinion). If we're going to use the banner in infobox, putting only one banner image in "see also" section (before the links) seem better. - [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] ([[User talk:Jhonn|talk]])
*Judging from our current banners, the images seem a bit overly compressed (even though we've re-saved them as PNG to avoid compounding artifacts). Likely not a big deal, but we should try to make sure to avoid compressing them further and increasing artifacts.
:: Well, from what I've seen, all banner images delroth got with "bannerget" were extracted directly from the Dolphin's cache file, so, it's compressed only one time. - [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] ([[User talk:Jhonn|talk]])
*Though I would like to see them on the game list pages, adding 600+ image loads to the page may have a significant impact on performance/load times. The list pages are already fairly slow today (I'm guessing from the many ratings loads), so we should be careful. [[User:Kolano|Kolano]] ([[User talk:Kolano|talk]]) 21:21, 6 February 2013 (CET)
:: Yep, this is true... Completely forgot the loading times when I suggested this - [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] ([[User talk:Jhonn|talk]])
== Recent Discussions ==
Below is listed only what was discussed last month. You can [[Project:General_Discussions/Archive|search the archive]] for what was discussed since General Discussions page was created.


=== Infobox Automation ===
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You know... if we put the platforms back into the infobox, we could get rid of all category additions to the bottom of the page. It would simplify game page creation, especially when pasting from wikipedia. Not to mention help newbies, since it's one less thing to worry about. We could just tell them to delete the non-Nintendo platforms, instead of telling them how to make categories, where to put them, and what categories to use. - [[User:MaJoR|MaJoR]] ([[User talk:MaJoR|talk]]) 03:31, 7 January 2013 (CET)
You know... if we put the platforms back into the infobox, we could get rid of all category additions to the bottom of the page. It would simplify game page creation, especially when pasting from wikipedia. Not to mention help newbies, since it's one less thing to worry about. We could just tell them to delete the non-Nintendo platforms, instead of telling them how to make categories, where to put them, and what categories to use. - [[User:MaJoR|MaJoR]] ([[User talk:MaJoR|talk]]) 03:31, 7 January 2013 (CET)
=== Importing game banners on the Wiki ===
As you may have seen on the forums, I've been crowdsourcing the collect of game banner images (the 96x32 images used in the Dolphin game list). These images should probably be hosted somewhere on the wiki like the covers, but I don't know how you want to handle that. Could someone look into adding banners for a few games? I will then use a bot to import everything.
When the import will be done I will be able to add the banners to the new Dolphin website compatibility list: http://dolphin-emu.org/compat/ :) [[User:Delroth|delroth]] ([[User talk:Delroth|talk]]) 05:22, 5 February 2013 (CET)
: A rough idea would be using the game ID as filename (like "G8ME01.png") and including the ID somewhere (like as an hidden parameter in Infobox VG). Banners maybe different based on release (NA/EU/JP), so, I think we should have a preference, like NA first, then EU, then JP. The 4th digit in the game ID reveal this (E for NA, P for EU and J for JP). Well, what I'm trying to say is: if the game has been released in all territories, use NA banner. If it was released only in Europe, use EU banner. And, if released only in japan, use JP banner.
: Also, adding all banner images in a category would be nice, like [Category:Banner images]. Well, I'll try to exemplify this in a sandbox... [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] ([[User talk:Jhonn|talk]])
:I've thought about putting the banners in the infobox, but I haven't come up with a method that is actually useful. Let me explain. Our brains respond to visual stimuli far better than text. That's why a collection of icons on the desktop is better than a big list of words. Our brains are trained for this stuff. So, in the list inside the dolphin emulator, the job of the banners is to give a visual reference of the game, to exploit our how brains work and help us find stuff faster. On the wiki pages though, cover art already does that, and far better than the tiny banners. Banners on game pages would be kind of redundant. But we could use them in the same way that dolphin does... Banners would be pretty awesome in compatibility lists. Imagine the wii article with banners in it. It would give that quick visual reference that the lists need. I think it would be great there. - [[User:MaJoR|MaJoR]] ([[User talk:MaJoR|talk]]) 18:34, 6 February 2013 (CET)
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Actually the banners wouldn't show up in the infobox with the covers, I proposed having Game ID as a hidden parameter thinking in easily getting this ID for use in other template, but this is completely out of question now (after some tests I found that there isn't any way of getting a parameter from infobox VG template in another template). So, my initial idea now is:
* Have the Game ID as file name (like G8ME01.png), and add all banner images in a category (Category:Banner images)
* Prefer NA banners, then EU banners, then JP banners
* Add the banners in the main lists too ([[GameCube]], [[Wii]], etc.) -- Something like delroth is doing for the main site
Then, delroth could hotlink the banner images from wiki, this way we could share only one copy of the banner in the main site and in the wiki aswell. [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] ([[User talk:Jhonn|talk]])
A user had started to gather banners here previously. The banners from his minor effort to do so are categorized as "Title images" and can be found. See them here, http://wiki.dolphin-emu.org/index.php?title=Category:Title_images. I've added John's recent upload to that category.
: "Banner images" seems a more accurate category. We can move them to the new category, as we have only a few images uploaded... - [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] ([[User talk:Jhonn|talk]])
My feedback here would be:
*We'll need to decide if we want all the banner images or not, in some cases there may be 5 or 6 of them per game disc. Since we may be likely to only use one image I'm not clear it makes sense to capture them all.
*If we wanted to use these on game pages I'd suggest they be tied into the "Release" section, where it may make sense to capture a title image per region.
:: Tried in a sandbox and the infobox got somewhat "ugly" (at least in my opinion). If we're going to use the banner in infobox, putting only one banner image in "see also" section (before the links) seem better. - [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] ([[User talk:Jhonn|talk]])
*Judging from our current banners, the images seem a bit overly compressed (even though we've re-saved them as PNG to avoid compounding artifacts). Likely not a big deal, but we should try to make sure to avoid compressing them further and increasing artifacts.
:: Well, from what I've seen, all banner images delroth got with "bannerget" were extracted directly from the Dolphin's cache file, so, it's compressed only one time. - [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] ([[User talk:Jhonn|talk]])
*Though I would like to see them on the game list pages, adding 600+ image loads to the page may have a significant impact on performance/load times. The list pages are already fairly slow today (I'm guessing from the many ratings loads), so we should be careful. [[User:Kolano|Kolano]] ([[User talk:Kolano|talk]]) 21:21, 6 February 2013 (CET)
:: Yep, this is true... Completely forgot the loading times when I suggested this - [[User:Jhonn|Jhonn]] ([[User talk:Jhonn|talk]])
== Recent Discussions ==
Below is listed only what was discussed last month. You can [[Project:General_Discussions/Archive|search the archive]] for what was discussed since General Discussions page was created.


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=== Compatibility List PAGESINCAT ===
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