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Hmm, the more I look, the more it seems I was wrong. Using "BE" without a space in-between seems to merely be a convention when talking about those CPUs on the net/forums (and, as with most things on the net, even that is not 100% consistent), and as far as AMD themselves go, they actually do not use "BE" at all.
Hmm, the more I look, the more it seems I was wrong. Using "BE" without a space in-between seems to merely be a convention when talking about those CPUs on the net/forums (and, as with most things on the net, even that is not 100% consistent), and as far as AMD themselves go, they actually do not use "BE" at all.
When they refer to their own CPUs internally (on their site), it seems that they consistently write out the entire "Black Edition" bit (as e.g. [http://www.amd.com/us/products/pricing/Pages/desktop-phenom.aspx here]). However, looking for the actual model names brings up something interesting: [http://products.amd.com/en-us/DesktopCPUResult.aspx This link] and [http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/processors/phenom-ii/Pages/phenom-ii-model-number-comparison.aspx this official model number list], which lists official AMD desktop CPUs along with names/model numbers. Guess what? The actual model names do not use the letters at all. Technically, there is no such thing as neither a "975 BE" or a "975BE"; there is, however, a "975", officially called (but not bearing the actual model name of) "975 Black Edition" since it is "available as a Black Edition PIB" (coincidentally, there are no non-black edition variants of the 96x, 97x and 98x series in existence (at least not of the tray/boxed versions (part numbers ending in "BOX" as opposed to "DGM" which are OEM pieces)).
When they refer to their own CPUs internally (on their site), it seems that they consistently write out the entire "Black Edition" bit (as e.g. [http://www.amd.com/us/products/pricing/Pages/desktop-phenom.aspx here]). However, looking for the actual model names brings up something interesting: [http://products.amd.com/en-us/DesktopCPUResult.aspx This link] and [http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/processors/phenom-ii/Pages/phenom-ii-model-number-comparison.aspx this official model number list], which lists official AMD desktop CPUs along with names/model numbers. Guess what? The actual model names do not use the letters at all. Technically, there is no such thing as neither a "975 BE" or a "975BE"; there is, however, a "975", officially called (but not bearing the actual model name of) "975 Black Edition" since it is "available as a Black Edition PIB" (coincidentally, there are no non-black edition variants of the 96x, 97x and 98x series in existence (at least not of the tray/boxed versions (part numbers ending in "BOX" as opposed to "DGM" which are OEM pieces))).
With this in mind, it seems that the only option left to us if sticking with giving official/manufacturer-given names is to skip the "BE" altogether and either use "9xx" or "9xx Black Edition", as those are the only officially valid/correct names. If, however, we are prepared to let go of being manufacturer-loyal in our writing/naming-conventions, it's up to us to choose whether we'd like to use "BE" with or without a space, in which case I suggest without a space as that seems to be the consistently most used across the web, especially amongst hardware-geeks. One notable exception to this is Anandtech, which uses a space. [[User:Incassum|incassum]] ([[User talk:Incassum|talk]]) 22:32, 13 January 2014 (CET)
With this in mind, it seems that the only option left to us if sticking with giving official/manufacturer-given names is to skip the "BE" altogether and either use "9xx" or "9xx Black Edition", as those are the only officially valid/correct names. If, however, we are prepared to let go of being manufacturer-loyal in our writing/naming-conventions, it's up to us to choose whether we'd like to use "BE" with or without a space, in which case I suggest without a space as that seems to be the consistently most used across the web, especially amongst hardware-geeks. One notable exception to this is Anandtech, which uses a space. [[User:Incassum|incassum]] ([[User talk:Incassum|talk]]) 22:32, 13 January 2014 (CET)


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Per prior discussion I've just purged the various AMD "black" identifiers, since they don't distinguish the chips in any way and are inconsistently used by AMD. [[User:Kolano|Kolano]] ([[User talk:Kolano|talk]]) 21:52, 20 January 2014 (CET)
Per prior discussion I've just purged the various AMD "black" identifiers, since they don't distinguish the chips in any way and are inconsistently used by AMD. [[User:Kolano|Kolano]] ([[User talk:Kolano|talk]]) 21:52, 20 January 2014 (CET)
Ah, you did not explicitly state that that was the new ''modus operandi''.  Excellent then, I shall adjust my future testing entries so as to conform to this attempt at a standard. Perhaps there ought to be an announcement or something of it, so as to assist future testers. [[User:Incassum|incassum]] ([[User talk:Incassum|talk]]) 23:41, 20 January 2014 (CET)
Yes, there is a standards guide here somewhere. I'll need to update it, once I remember where it is. [[User:Kolano|Kolano]] ([[User talk:Kolano|talk]]) 00:43, 21 January 2014 (CET)<br/>
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Aha, I was not aware of that. It is well hidden. If you find it, I'd appreciate it if you linked it here. [[User:Incassum|incassum]] ([[User talk:Incassum|talk]]) 18:41, 21 January 2014 (CET)
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