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::: Like I said, Metroid Trilogy is oddball on this Wiki, how is my edit any less continent? Whether it's right to use disambig page or not for Metroid Trilogy is your call. I'd have to disagree about the Phantasy game, disambig page gives people choice between page for their game. It's what disambig page is for. Still, you should ask for a third opinion because I don't want to argue and having you threaten to revert my edits over disagreement when it's not up to your taste. I haven't seen it discussed before and I cannot discuss further with your current attitude. And besides can you please stop calling new things you didn't like broken? [[User:Lucario|Lucario]] ([[User talk:Lucario|talk]]) 01:12, 23 January 2022 (CET) | ::: Like I said, Metroid Trilogy is oddball on this Wiki, how is my edit any less continent? Whether it's right to use disambig page or not for Metroid Trilogy is your call. I'd have to disagree about the Phantasy game, disambig page gives people choice between page for their game. It's what disambig page is for. Still, you should ask for a third opinion because I don't want to argue and having you threaten to revert my edits over disagreement when it's not up to your taste. I haven't seen it discussed before and I cannot discuss further with your current attitude. And besides can you please stop calling new things you didn't like broken? [[User:Lucario|Lucario]] ([[User talk:Lucario|talk]]) 01:12, 23 January 2022 (CET) | ||
:::: About MP Trilogy, yes, it's an oddball, but that oddball was already handled via the dedicated "Game Pages" section only MP Trilogy and the related subpages has. Your recent edit made the IDs from the main game to be associated with the subpages as well, as if they were individual games, with their own IDs, when they clearly aren't. You cannot launch them separately from the main game thus they aren't treated as separate entries, neither in [[Wii#M|the wiki]], nor in Dolphin's game list. Regarding Phantasy Star, yes, the situation is different but we already had precedents for identical cases, as well as how to handle them (again, go see the games I linked on my previous comment and their associated channels -- same IDs associated with different but still closely related titles -- how is that any different from [[Phantasy Star Online Episode I & II]] and [[Phantasy Star Online Episode I & II Plus]]?). | |||
:::: You can argue all you want, but you did break the behavior of the "open wiki page" shortcut from the emulator with the unneeded disambig pages you created for MP Trilogy and PSO, that's a fact and not a matter of liking your change or not. I have no objection if you want to somehow make the IDs from PSO I & II to also appear on II & II Plus infobox since that would be accurate to how those IDs are used outside the wiki and could also benefit [[Mario Kart Wii]], [[Wii Fit]] and [[Wii Fit Plus]] as well (the ID field in the infobox of the channels remain empty when in reality they reuse the same IDs from the associated game). Still, I do not agree on how you did that (replaced existing redirects with completely avoidable disambig pages), neither in why you did that (to associate IDs to infoboxes that don't have any by hijacking the disambig category in a special case -- even through now they associate IDs to pages that shouldn't have any as a side effect, while also breaking existing functionality in the process). | |||
:::: Speaking of that, it's not the first time you go pushing behavioral changes directly to core templates we use on the wiki when you already were warned about that in the past (more than once, BTW) and thus known damn well those kind of changes should go to a sandbox first and only after discussion and consensual approval they should be merged back to the live templates. That alone was enough to warrant a nuke on sight of the edits you did recently, yet I still opted to create this topic on your talk page instead. So, perhaps stop insinuating I keep chasing and threatening to revert all edits your do (not true, neither the fist time), and respect the currently established procedures from the wiki for a change. | |||
:::: Anyway, I have nothing more to add on this subject and already made my stance clear. If you want other opinions about this subject, fine, I'm all ears. I do reserve the right to (and definitely will) revert those changes in about two or three weeks if no consensual approval comes out of this, though. I also won't bother going to your talk page anymore if I catch you again pushing behavioral changes directly to live templates in the future (especially if they break existing behaviors and weren't discussed before), I'll simply nuke them and move on. Every time I did differently it ended like this topic, while I could have spent that time and energy in something more useful to the wiki or to Dolphin itself. - [[User:mbc07|mbc07]] ([[User talk:mbc07|talk]]) 06:28, 23 January 2022 (CET) | |||