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=== Currenttimestamp? === | |||
As far as I can see, the CURRENTTIMESTAMP template (i.e. {{CURRENTTIMESTAMP}}) doesn't update per page refresh, it seems to stay stuck at the point when the last edit occurred or the cache page was generated. So I'm not sure it can be used to generate the random value. I think we had determined that some JavaScript is needed to either handle the random selection, or minimally generate an actual random value here. BTW, a parameterless version of things would be nicer, even if it can't handle the random selection. [[User:Kolano|Kolano]] ([[User talk:Kolano|talk]]) 08:42, 27 January 2018 (CET) | |||
:You're right, it didn't update on page load. I was hoping that it was just cache of another template rather than on page directly, but nope it's still not updated, as confirmed in next section below. We'll look into Javascript I guess. I've wondered how will Javascript look and how will it pick three lucky videos and list the rest. I'm no Javascript expert so I won't be able to tell how hard it'd be. [[User:Lucario|Lucario]] ([[User talk:Lucario|talk]]) 09:00, 27 January 2018 (CET) | |||
::You can't cheat the cache. You have to use [[MediaWiki:Common.js]]. That's the only way. If you put logic in there to generate a random seed, that should be enough. - [[User:Xerxes|Xerxes]] ([[User talk:Xerxes|talk]]) 09:15, 27 January 2018 (CET) | |||
:::Thanks for letting me know, it kinda suck we've had to wait for the cache to purge out for the time to update. [[User:Lucario|Lucario]] ([[User talk:Lucario|talk]]) 14:18, 27 January 2018 (CET) | |||
:I agree! Parameterless seems better. With it the uploader can just select all > copy'n'paste the url then append with caption. It'll have same feel as you'd copy full url then append with caption in brackets. There was one editor who deliberately assign +1 to all vid/cap parameters then use the first parameter for his video. It made me want to curl! [[User:Lucario|Lucario]] ([[User talk:Lucario|talk]]) 09:12, 27 January 2018 (CET) | |||
:: Yes, they also frequently will perform arbitrary edits (i.e. adding/removing spacing) until their video comes to the top. This is the exact reason we want to restore true randomness. [[User:Kolano|Kolano]] ([[User talk:Kolano|talk]]) 09:32, 27 January 2018 (CET) | |||
: Generating a random ID in common.js is easy enough. However, I'm not clear there is any way for that to hand off to wiki handling, so I think any randomization related logic here is likely pointless. Since I'm not clear there is any good way to perform a hand-off, I think we need to perform the random selection and HTML generation in JavaScript, which makes things more complicated (though not particularly difficult). [[User:Kolano|Kolano]] ([[User talk:Kolano|talk]]) 09:37, 27 January 2018 (CET) | |||
:: I don't think I'll be around to do that stuff. Anyone else can try. [[User:Lucario|Lucario]] ([[User talk:Lucario|talk]]) 14:18, 27 January 2018 (CET) | |||
== Time refresh on page load test == | |||
* current time: <code>{{CURRENTTIMESTAMP}}</code> | |||
* current time in template: <code>{{vgrelease|NA={{CURRENTTIMESTAMP}}}}</code> | |||
* expecting empty #var:trololo: <code>{{#var:trololo}}</code> | |||
* expecting empty #var:trololo default: <code>{{#var:trololo|{{CURRENTTIMESTAMP}}}}</code> | |||
* expecting defined #var:trololo: <code>{{#vardefine:trololo|{{CURRENTTIMESTAMP}}}}{{#var:trololo}}</code> | |||
Which one updates faster? | |||
:{{CURRENTTIMESTAMP}} | |||
:{{#time:U}} | |||
:{{#time:z}} | |||
== SNES Ratings== | == SNES Ratings== | ||
Did you actually test the SNES titles, a number of the pre-existing ratings indicated problems so I'm not clear it's safe to assume them to all be 5 stars. [[User:Kolano|Kolano]] ([[User talk:Kolano|talk]]) 03:15, 30 March 2017 (CEST) | Did you actually test the SNES titles, a number of the pre-existing ratings indicated problems so I'm not clear it's safe to assume them to all be 5 stars. [[User:Kolano|Kolano]] ([[User talk:Kolano|talk]]) 03:15, 30 March 2017 (CEST) | ||
:I haven't tested any SNES title for a problem, but yeah I realized it's starting to overlap with 0 stars "unknown" in term of untested. I'll probably go through them again and rate 0 when there isn't a testing entry. [[User:Lucario|Lucario]] ([[User talk:Lucario|talk]]) 03:55, 30 March 2017 (CEST) | :I haven't tested any SNES title for a problem, but yeah I realized it's starting to overlap with 0 stars "unknown" in term of untested. I'll probably go through them again and rate them 0 <s>when there isn't a testing entry</s> (slashed for laziness but it's good indication of whether game is actually tested or not...). [[User:Lucario|Lucario]] ([[User talk:Lucario|talk]]) 03:55, 30 March 2017 (CEST) | ||
== Infobox Edits == | == Infobox Edits == | ||
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I don't think the edits you've been making on the Infobox template will be well supported anyway. We currently only list "Platform" on VC titles, so we would never generate a "Category:Wii titles that use Classic Controller" as there should be no pages that list "Wii" as a platform. In the case of the VC titles, the supported controlled are almost never different, so these categories would just become duplicates of the pre-existing VC categories. In general, if we want something like this, I'd think it might be better to look into adding an [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Category_intersection_extensions "intersection" extension] to the wiki, which would allow for auto-generating sub-categories based on the inclusion of other categories. [[User:Kolano|Kolano]] ([[User talk:Kolano|talk]]) 18:54, 20 September 2015 (CEST) | I don't think the edits you've been making on the Infobox template will be well supported anyway. We currently only list "Platform" on VC titles, so we would never generate a "Category:Wii titles that use Classic Controller" as there should be no pages that list "Wii" as a platform. In the case of the VC titles, the supported controlled are almost never different, so these categories would just become duplicates of the pre-existing VC categories. In general, if we want something like this, I'd think it might be better to look into adding an [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Category_intersection_extensions "intersection" extension] to the wiki, which would allow for auto-generating sub-categories based on the inclusion of other categories. [[User:Kolano|Kolano]] ([[User talk:Kolano|talk]]) 18:54, 20 September 2015 (CEST) | ||
Please talk to us before doing big structural changes to the way our templates work... Even I won't change things like that without talking to everyone to make sure they are fine with it! Big changes that effect everything need to be agreed upon. Btw, if the idea is to allow for cross referencing of controllers, a plugin would be great for that! - [[User: | Please talk to us before doing big structural changes to the way our templates work... Even I won't change things like that without talking to everyone to make sure they are fine with it! Big changes that effect everything need to be agreed upon. Btw, if the idea is to allow for cross referencing of controllers, a plugin would be great for that! - [[User:MayImilae|MayImilae]] ([[User talk:MayImilae|talk]]) 19:56, 20 September 2015 (CEST) | ||
:My original intention was to create a list that show all Wii games with controller specific support. For example, "Wii titles that use GameCube Controller". I think it's nice addition to this Dolphin wiki. In earlier edit in sandbox I've added them instead of replacing the existing controller set. It should work out of the box (sort of, it depends on |platforms=, unfortunately). Then I ultimately replaced them as I think it's bit odd to see like this: | :My original intention was to create a list that show all Wii games with controller specific support. For example, "Wii titles that use GameCube Controller". I think it's nice addition to this Dolphin wiki. In earlier edit in sandbox I've added them instead of replacing the existing controller set. It should work out of the box (sort of, it depends on |platforms=, unfortunately). Then I ultimately replaced them as I think it's bit odd to see like this: | ||
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:::: Hoping you get better soon! [[User:Lucario|Lucario]] ([[User talk:Lucario|talk]]) 07:56, 28 September 2015 (CEST) | :::: Hoping you get better soon! [[User:Lucario|Lucario]] ([[User talk:Lucario|talk]]) 07:56, 28 September 2015 (CEST) | ||
::: Personally I still think that some sort of cross referencing wiki plugin would be the best approach for this. That way a user could combine "Wii games" and "Input GameCube Controller" and get the list you wish to create, all without us editing a single page! The best part is, we'd instantly get a very powerful cross referencing system for controllers, allowing for far more possibilities that even you have imagined! - [[User: | ::: Personally I still think that some sort of cross referencing wiki plugin would be the best approach for this. That way a user could combine "Wii games" and "Input GameCube Controller" and get the list you wish to create, all without us editing a single page! The best part is, we'd instantly get a very powerful cross referencing system for controllers, allowing for far more possibilities that even you have imagined! - [[User:MayImilae|MayImilae]] ([[User talk:MayImilae|talk]]) 12:30, 22 September 2015 (CEST) | ||
:::: I don't mind that actually. [[User:Lucario|Lucario]] ([[User talk:Lucario|talk]]) 07:56, 28 September 2015 (CEST) | :::: I don't mind that actually. [[User:Lucario|Lucario]] ([[User talk:Lucario|talk]]) 07:56, 28 September 2015 (CEST) | ||
:::: Is it that addon which is enabled recently that you were referred to? I'd like to set up the console <-> input method categories. Is it possible currently? [[User:Lucario|Lucario]] ([[User talk:Lucario|talk]]) 03:18, 25 November 2015 (CET) | :::: Is it that addon which is enabled recently that you were referred to? I'd like to set up the console <-> input method categories. Is it possible currently? [[User:Lucario|Lucario]] ([[User talk:Lucario|talk]]) 03:18, 25 November 2015 (CET) | ||
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:Sorry, I'm not sure why the parser function (#if:) isn't preserving newlines for the header tags (== ==) to render. I do know that when the parser function that output empty newlines consecutively there will be large gap in between. [[User:Lucario|Lucario]] ([[User talk:Lucario|talk]]) 05:24, 11 November 2016 (CET) | :Sorry, I'm not sure why the parser function (#if:) isn't preserving newlines for the header tags (== ==) to render. I do know that when the parser function that output empty newlines consecutively there will be large gap in between. [[User:Lucario|Lucario]] ([[User talk:Lucario|talk]]) 05:24, 11 November 2016 (CET) | ||
:Apparently "===" is really <nowiki><h3></nowiki>, but the latter one does not require newline. [[User:Lucario|Lucario]] ([[User talk:Lucario|talk]]) 06:33, 11 November 2016 (CET) | :Apparently "===" is really <nowiki><h3></nowiki>, but the latter one does not require newline. [[User:Lucario|Lucario]] ([[User talk:Lucario|talk]]) 06:33, 11 November 2016 (CET) | ||
== Version Compatibility Updates == | |||
===Version Labels=== | |||
Thanks for the update trimming the "r" info from the intermediary version label. The "r"'s are only maintained to allow for sorting/alignment and generally shouldn't be exposed (outside of the old revs where they were the primary ID). A few further suggestions... | |||
* I think adding a transparent white background will likely help with remaining overlap. Such should cause the most recent revs to obscure later ones, hopefully better maintaining text visibility, while still leaving older markers somewhat visible. | |||
* Presuming that works out, it would be nice to add in rev markers for at least 4.0 and 3.0 (and if the overlapping is addressed 3.5). | |||
* We probably should also purge the "(current)" label on the latest rev, it's also not useful. | |||
* Also let me know if there are things there that can be better addressed in a base stylesheet. I think when it was initially set up many styles were embedded, but that could likely be more cleanly handled with outside stylesheets. | |||
[[User:Kolano|Kolano]] ([[User talk:Kolano|talk]]) | |||
:Stylesheet, it's something that I would like to get tooltips working for mobile devices, you can see example [http://www.wickham43.net/hoverpopups.php here]. We could try update there to clean up unused codes while implementing the codes needed for tooltips. | |||
:The major revision mark overlapping problem still exists on some browsers (can confirm here on iPhone Safari), so we could get rid of "(Current)" appending next to the current revision as it's another trivial information. When I had said I wasn't sure that adding more major revision markers was good idea, it was when they were appended with "r" revision number in parentheses, and they become crowded in many revisions later. I think it's OK to add all major revision marks now that they don't have to have revision number appended with them. I'm not fan of overlapping n obscuring another information, it'll give false positives in browser's find in page function, and the obscured texts, if not fully obscured, will appear chopped off, as if the web page style is broken or poorly designed. Using the white background to obscure another is not in good direction. | |||
:I'm hesitant to have revision text on top going live outside of sandbox though while it has received enough supporters, but the rotated text didn't received enough supporters which that could've solved the illegible text overlapping problem once the revision texts went up out of bars. We also have problem with revision text in bars as well, they became harder to see in darker colored backgrounds like teal and red. [[User:Lucario|Lucario]] ([[User talk:Lucario|talk]]) 23:54, 3 April 2017 (CEST) | |||
:: Still wish I could understand the resistance to non-horizontal text, such would resolve the overlaps easily, and should only be unsupported in fairly ancient browsers (i.e. prior to CSS3 support). We can make the colors more pastel if text legibility is a problem. | |||
== INI History == | |||
I noticed you mentioned an archive of INIs in one of your recent edits. I'd suggest checking out the [https://github.com/dolphin-emu/dolphin/commits/master/Data/Sys/GameSettings/GFEE01.ini file histories available on files through GIT] for a more comprehensive view on INI histories (though only post the transition to GIT), if that wasn't already the mechanism you've been using. [[User:Kolano|Kolano]] ([[User talk:Kolano|talk]]) 00:09, 8 August 2017 (CEST) | |||
:Come to think of it we might be able to provide some general integration to those histories from the title pages, though the truncation / merging of them probably makes that tough. [[User:Kolano|Kolano]] ([[User talk:Kolano|talk]]) 00:11, 8 August 2017 (CEST) | |||
:I did tried look though change history of GMSE01.ini (wasn't it and not GFEE01.ini?) on GitHub to find when a setting has been added. I've browsed through its changes on GitHub but then it'd be hard to find the actual Dolphin revision out of it. I can, however, look at change's date to look though download pages of older development versions faster then look for matching PR description, but it's completely useless when the age of last relevant change was older than age of {{revision|3.0-749}}. [[User:Lucario|Lucario]] ([[User talk:Lucario|talk]]) 08:32, 9 August 2017 (CEST) | |||
== Preferences == | |||
Friendly reminder that you can set your edits to default to minor from within your wiki account preferences in case you get the desire to do mass edits again. You can also increase the recent changes cap to above the normal max of 500 from there as well. - [[User:Xerxes|Xerxes]] ([[User talk:Xerxes|talk]]) 04:46, 15 January 2018 (CET) | |||
:Wasn't aware of the abilities to make my edit "minor" without me doing it each time. I have tried 1000 in recent days but returned to 250 because of page loading. [[User:Lucario|Lucario]] ([[User talk:Lucario|talk]]) 05:11, 15 January 2018 (CET) | |||
::A lot of the time I was just manually clicking the button every time because I'm weird, but there's really no need to do that. At this point I just said fuck it and set recent changes to display 1500. (Sorry for blowing everything up by the way.) - [[User:Xerxes|Xerxes]] ([[User talk:Xerxes|talk]]) 05:26, 15 January 2018 (CET) | |||