Template talk:Problems/GC Widescreen 16-9

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Use of "Native"

I don't want the titles with template {{Problems/GC Widescreen 16-9}} to use the term "native" if they don't actually increase the width in display resolution. They just stretch the image vertically to act like widescreen and demand the user to stretch the image horizontally in the TV setting so they'll appear widescreen in the end. Lucario (talk) 04:34, 28 November 2015 (CET)

Per Template talk:Problems/GC Widescreen Auto#FOV I presume this topic is concluded due to lack of desire to investigate which titles are effected. Kolano (talk) 13:46, 2 December 2015 (CET)

Not in that sense. It'd be a true "native widescreen" if the widescreen setting have capability to go up to 720x480. Lucario (talk) 23:47, 2 December 2015 (CET)
Native in this context means that the game provides a way to the user get a widescreen image on it's options (so it's "native" in the manner that the user won't need to resort to things like hacks/patches or AR/Gecko codes), even when running in a console that were designed to be 4:3 only. In fact, all games that works with "Auto" stretch the image vertically, that's how the heuristic implemented in Dolphin detects that the game is outputting in widescreen... - mbc07 (talk) 00:04, 3 December 2015 (CET)
Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but saying "Native 16:9" seems like it will actually go widescreen, really going to 16:9 aspect ratio, as in 720x480 in resolution dimensions, and I think this is where Dolphin should be able to detect and render in 16:9, yet I think Dolphin couldn't be able to because they're not actually 16:9 (720x480)? The context behind "Native 16:9" doesn't seem the same as the game that simply stretches the image to appear like 16:9. "Pseudo" is very appropriate term for this! Lucario (talk) 10:26, 3 December 2015 (CET)
Err, accordingly to yagcd a real GC will always output either at 640x480 (NTSC) or 640x574 (PAL). In other words, all games that have widescreen option built-in will stretch the image vertically. And to be clear, accordingly to the PR that implemented "Auto" detection, the heuristic from Dolphin works by measuring the raw projection sizes the game is rendering, not by analyzing the final resolution outputted. Also, -1 to change this to "pseudo", as explained, Native in this context means that the game provides a way to the user get a widescreen image on it's options, without needing hacks or patches... - mbc07 (talk) 13:41, 3 December 2015 (CET)
This is very interesting. I wasn't aware that 16:9 doesn't mean 720x480 when it comes to GCN. I also feel it needs to rewrite to look more different than how it's written in titles with "Auto". "Force 16:9" in the sentence is easily overlooked. Lucario (talk) 22:29, 3 December 2015 (CET)