Talk:Pikmin (GC)

Anonymous tests

There's two anonymous tests on the page for 4.0-7714 and an entry for it in version compatibility. However no such revision exists on the Dolphin site if you click the link. I even went back in the master download list and found the gap where it's supposed to be, and it's not there. - Xerxes (talk) 11:48, 4 January 2018 (CET)

Nice find, I vote to remove them, their testing results are already sketchy. I have a crazy thought, thinking of creating a script with pretty exhaustive list of actually existing revisions and ship into template:Testing/entry, they will run through testing entries for bogus Dolphin revisions. I can feel there's massive performance hit coming if we do that. We will catch every bogus testing entries that way, then revert the changes to template:Testing/entry if we still feel scary about it. Lucario (talk) 02:06, 7 January 2018 (CET)

I went ahead and removed them. It may be possible to do what you're suggesting, but I highly doubt it's possible from within the wiki. There's a 200 loop limit on every page which we've been carefully skirting around. I was testing sorting algorithms on my user page for something similar (sorting test entries/dates in infobox maybe) but after around 13-15 elements in the list, I would hit the maximum loop counter. Now imagine some kind of loop going through every test revision; not going to happen. With outside scripting though, sure. - Xerxes (talk) 08:36, 7 January 2018 (CET)

Actually, I cannot think of good script that will do the job but it'd be badass if we can think of one. Lucario (talk) 09:52, 7 January 2018 (CET)

If we had an index of some sort of all valid builds, it could probably be done. Something that compares the revision number against the index to see if it's in there or not; if it is it returns a success, if not a fail. But that would need to hook into buildbot probably in order to keep the index up to date. - Xerxes (talk) 10:13, 7 January 2018 (CET)

Actually maybe we could just generate an index from the git repo? I've never used git so I don't know if/how it stores the revision numbers in the format Dolphin uses, or how it handles the old SVN builds. I'll try to do some research and tinkering around with it this week, it sounds fun. - Xerxes (talk) 12:15, 7 January 2018 (CET)

I'm making hypothetical what it'll mean when we actually got full list of valid revisions off from somewhere, I've created batch file that will output count from 1 to 9000

for /l %%i in (1,1,9000) do (echo %%i>>lol.txt)

then used Notepad++'s regex to replace linebreaks to add "4.0-" and then add Wiki's regex args, apparently regex can only look for ~3500 matches each, and you're looking at ~3 seconds per regex. It'd be unimaginable what it'll mean to every test entry there are on this site. Lucario (talk) 03:34, 8 January 2018 (CET)

I was thinking not to use the wiki's regex tools or other extensions at all. Have the testing entry template interact with javascript and have the javascript contain the hard stuff. Maybe even do it in bash and input git commands server side so you can directly do something like git show 4.0-7714, and depending on the output of git give a success/fail, then we don't have to worry about algorithms at all and can make git handle it. If you do git clone dolphin'sgithublink, cd dolphin, then git describe you actually get the version number back out like "5.0-6152-gdc08b73db1", but git really doesn't like referring to version numbers because of its decentralization. I couldn't even figure out how to get that style of formatting output for older builds to make an index, or how to reference builds in master by the build number (it thinks that "5.0-6152" is ambiguous, and wants you to give it some of the sha-1 hash). - Xerxes (talk) 09:09, 8 January 2018 (CET)

Can it be done within our limited privileges? Does it need higher authorities to do it? Also I've managed to get list of all valid 4.0 and 5.0 builds for Windows only the list of valid builds for 3.0, etc., and other OS can be be acquired but I'd hold them for later. Everything will work out once I know how to receive exhaustive list of revisions each appended with wiki page title. Is there any way to make Template:Testing/entry to output revision text to another page? It's the last puzzle piece I need. Lucario (talk) 01:49, 12 January 2018 (CET)

I don't think you can "output" anything within MediaWiki. Each page is treated as its own independent script, if you want to think about it like that. The contents of a page are entirely based on the wiki markup of that page. You can reference other pages' contents, but only either through transclusion or within the limitations of the wiki's extensions (for example, DPL). The way I was interacting with another page's contents with Template:Page Status was by transcluding the entire page as a variable like {{#vardefine:page|{{:Some Page}}}}, and then using regex on that, but it's pretty messy, and it's inconsistent where trying to do a regex which extracts data will cause terrible bugs that I couldn't explain. So I really don't recommend relying on that method. You can't use categories in this situation because there's too many possibilities, you'd generate thousands of them. So I really don't know how to do that. As for edit privileges I think you can still create .js javascript pages as a regular user, but I've never tried. The stuff in bash would definitely require being run directly on the server. - Xerxes (talk) 03:14, 12 January 2018 (CET)

I have zero knowledge with javascript/bash stuff and the likes, sorry. You seem more knowledgeable than I do. I can provide you complete list of valid 3.0 to 5.0 revision builds for Windows (and others on request), or I could give you explanation how I accomplish that if you think you could make use of them. Lucario (talk) 05:14, 12 January 2018 (CET)

Neither do I, really. I thought this was a good learning opportunity though. - Xerxes (talk) 11:52, 12 January 2018 (CET)

Today I learned about &action=raw. So, lot of scripts later... Below only cover Wii games. Lucario (talk) 05:38, 13 January 2018 (CET)

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